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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:19 am 
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I advanced the timing on the EL (stock timing is plus or minus 2 degrees from TDC). Running on premium fuel now........

Advanced it to about 4-5 degrees BTDC and the car accelerates better off the line and has a little bit more grunt.

Cheap mod for El owners, sorry EF owners the old coil packs required a chip ( very pricey)........
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:40 am 
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Would it be possible to change the mounting of the crank position sensor on the efs so that it changes the timing?

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:41 am 
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I find its hard to adjust the timing on the EL's (and not just because the dizzy is in a prick of a location) but because there are no incremental marks on the balancer. :(

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:24 pm 
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Will the computer still retard the timing for a lesser grade if you can't find a 98 octane bowser?
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:28 pm 
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If the engine knocks, it will pull timing. Its not the way you want to do it though.

Easy to adjust timing on my EF :)

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 6:32 pm 
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If you advance it too far I dont know if it can. I advanced mine heaps, and it still knocked :(

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:00 pm 
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Just a matter of time before a bigger knock, then it would be to late.
your knock sensor says: oops, I'm a couple of mili-seconds to slow!

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:29 pm 
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[quote="stockstandard"]If the engine knocks, it will pull timing. Its not the way you want to do it though.

one way to stop the knock is to adjust throttle position sensor or for chip gear try a shop in auckland called xL performance they have a web page and the owner is ford man he can also source good piggy back gear and solid chips so best of luck

 

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sorry i forgot to mention that xl can do this gear alot cheaperthan here in australia because of the import market in nz is so exstensive

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:42 pm 
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hornet if you wish to do your timing the right way lock the dizzy this means it will have to come out and take the counter wieghts out zap with a tig or mig and you will have wat you desire any good drag racer or performance shop should be able to help you good luck

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:17 pm 
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I dont know where you get this idea of changing the throttle position sensor to stop knocking. TPS has nothing to do with timing.

Yes, the idea is not to have any pinging at all. The knock sensor is there as a safety net, not as a way of maximising timing.

 

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stock standard some things are learnt over years of reaseach and practicle knowledge it worked on mine not only that a few years of drag racing i dont no wat you no but i no that it works

 

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the reason he is knocking is not becoause of timing it is detonation on initial accell do sum homework and process of elimination tps will richen enough to stop the knock on initial anything after that the timing should not be were it is

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:39 pm 
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fordluva wrote:
stock standard some things are learnt over years of reaseach and practicle knowledge it worked on mine not only that a few years of drag racing i dont no wat you no but i no that it works


The TPS is used for accel enrichment and also in switching between open and closed loops - nothing to do with timing. I know this because I have seen the tables in the Ford EEC.

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 4:41 pm 
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fordluva wrote:
the reason he is knocking is not becoause of timing it is detonation on initial accell do sum homework and process of elimination tps will richen enough to stop the knock on initial anything after that the timing should not be were it is


So what you are saying is put as much timing as you like in, then squirt more fuel to stop pinging???

Messing with the TPS will only stop pinging if the pinging is caused by a lean spike on tip in. If your running too much timing in the first place the TPS wont help.

 

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