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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon / XG Falcon
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:52 pm 
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Hi SWC,

I have run into a few problems, I have not cut my a/c spacers, or bolts, and I'm using a standard AU serpentine belt, and it all works well, the belt is nice and tensioned, is this an issue?

Also where do people mount there coil?

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon / XG Falcon
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:55 pm 
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Bradelz77 wrote:
Hi SWC,

I have run into a few problems, I have not cut my a/c spacers, or bolts, and I'm using a standard AU serpentine belt, and it all works well, the belt is nice and tensioned, is this an issue?

Also where do people mount there coil?

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Are you using the EF/EL Alternator?

Mount the coil off the AC Compressor.

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon / XG Falcon
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:58 pm 
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Cheers for the quick reply mate,

I'm using AU III alternator.... I'm guessing you need to grind the spaces so the a/c pipes clear the body of car?
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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:28 am 
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If the Belt fit then all is fine. Seems unusual that the AU Belt fits up.

Is it a old belt or new?

Just how tensioned is the belt?
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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:47 am 
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I have two belts one is relatively new and one has been on there for years, and they both fit, the belt is tensioned so you can just twist it half over.

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:25 am 
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monitor where the belt tensioner is with the belt ON, then take the belt off, how much tensioner play is there? ie how far can it move to "tension" the belt if it was on, if it still has tension left with your belt I would assume it would be fine?

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:49 pm 
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f**k I'm a dumbass, realised I hadn't had the power steering pump fully tightened so it was moving around, now my XH belt fits and everything is gravy, also SWC do you know where a pink wire coming from the loom around the inlet manifold its a pink wire with a flat spade on it, I for the life of me have got no idea.

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:49 pm 
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Don't know XH colour coding, could be Oil Pressure Switch/Sender or the wire to the noise supressor (static)
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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:29 pm 
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Pink wire goes to spade terminal on starter motor, had this drama after a engine swap then realised it goes on the starter.

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:29 pm 
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Pink wire goes to spade terminal on starter motor, had this drama after a engine swap then realised it goes on the starter.

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon / XG Falcon
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 3:58 pm 
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SWC wrote:
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Hi guys, Just wondering what are the advantages to swaping an AU into the EL? Also I see alot of people talking about swaping the heads aswel, are the EL heads better? Does this mean I build an AU with an EL head for a good engine? This is stage 1 im planning, stage 2 will be a turbo but thats a long way off atm. Thanks for your time :D


Are you talking about just using the engine or are you looking at swapping loom/ecu/etc as well?



Hi SWC (GOD)it seems , i'm in the planning stage, as a mate is letting me pay-off this 97 wagon...only way the boss at home will let me get another ford...i'm not sure what to take, thats where the first question came from but I do want to turbo at a later date so I want to do it in steps...If it's better to make an AU conversion with loom/comp now, I would do that as I only got one chance of spending on this...but if I can use the guide above with out the loom change and turbo later with still no loom change then thats even sweeter! BTW are you able to make a thread on how to put and au into a e* with plans to turbo later including short cuts like adding oil return feeder in sump when modifying for K member etc...

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:34 pm 
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Falcon96XR6 wrote:
Pink wire goes to spade terminal on starter motor, had this drama after a engine swap then realised it goes on the starter.


Red wire goes to the Starter Motor. Thats the colour on an EF as well as AU.
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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:38 pm 
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SWC wrote:
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Pink wire goes to spade terminal on starter motor, had this drama after a engine swap then realised it goes on the starter.


Red wire goes to the Starter Motor. Thats the colour on an EF as well as AU.


EL must be different then, mine that runs to the starter is pink, (unless its somehow faded with lack of sunlight) :roll: lol

 

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:21 pm 
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motor in, won't run seems like I have put the dizzy in wrong, won't start turns over and backfires and splutters and what not, whats the right protocol to go about putting in a dizzy?

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 Post subject: Re: AU Motor into EL Falcon
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:10 am 
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Engine on TDC COMPRESSION stroke, put dizzy in with rotor facing number one. Or if you have a Bosch dizzy, put it in facing "finish" then as you push it down to completely mate with the gears it will rotate slightly to "start".

 

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