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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:57 am 
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Went on me yesterday.

apparently my car was supposed to be "fully serviced and safety checked" before i bought it. s**t :evil:

no mechanic services a car and leaves the oil unchanged with grit in it.

this has in turn jammed up my oil pump, which has in turn sheared the teeth off the auxillary shaft, bending the teeth on the dizzy cog at the same time.

not happy jan :evil:

oh also, the coil and starter motor died simultaneously at pretty much the same time as the oil pump/aux shaft.

i havent even done 2000kms in the f*cking thing since i bought it 4 weeks ago, and this happens.

f**k car dealers.

so now im left with a heap of junk sitting in my front yard which i cant afford to fix for a long time, being a full time Tafe student with no current job.

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:34 am 
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sorry to hear that dude...

might be cheaper and easier to pick up a new motor and just do a swap..
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:35 am 
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faaaaark i'd be calling them and telling them to fix it as they've advertised having a full service and whatnot, and most car dealerships provide some sort of warranty, also threaten to take it to consumer affairs or something similar. might work might not too

sorry to hear it hope it gets back on the road soon

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:51 am 
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Sorry to hear alfy. Does it have a warranty? I am thinking that they should since they are a car dealership. Speak to them and tell them what happened...and if they don't fix it. Do what basstrom_dave said about consumer affairs.

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:59 am 
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dude that sucks :( and it couldnt be a more hardcore problem really... as the rest have said take it up with the dealer and hopefully they are kind

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:15 am 
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The advice me and Troyman tried to give you regarding the cam whine you loved, was defintely a sign to get the car checked asap.

http://www.fordmods.com/forums/post805161.html#805161

All experience i guess, hope you can get your car on the road, and hopfefully this doesnt hurt the hip pocket too much
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:51 am 
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The advice me and Troyman tried to give you regarding the cam whine you loved, was defintely a sign to get the car checked asap.

http://www.fordmods.com/forums/post805161.html#805161

All experience i guess, hope you can get your car on the road, and hopfefully this doesnt hurt the hip pocket too much

haha, thats exactly what I was thinking.
It wasn't the oil pump "jamming" that sheared the auxilary shaft...

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:35 pm 
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argh this is f**k. car dosent have a warranty because it had done 210,000km when i bought it. but i have a picture of the window when it was on sale stating the full service and safety check.

i'll talk to consumer affairs anyway and see what happens.

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:55 pm 
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Only way to fix that is to get a new motor. Same thing happened to me. Fixed the headgasket and over tighten the timing chain. Which casued the auxliery shaft to break.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:14 pm 
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well me and a mate took the sump off today... oh dear :(

there were little fine slivers of metal in the oil pickup, representing teeth from the auxilary shaft, and there were about 5 big chunks of metal in the oil pickup which were pieces of the timing chain guide we found at the bottom of the sump :(

adding to that, the oil pump itself has scores and huge gouges out of the chamber, it must have picked up a piece of metal from the guide, which jammed up the oil pump for a split second, which in turn has stripped the aux shaft of its teeth.

thats not where it ends either. i'll put up some interesting pics for you guys to suss out in a minute.

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:56 pm 
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shnoza wrote:
Only way to fix that is to get a new motor. Same thing happened to me. Fixed the headgasket and over tighten the timing chain. Which casued the auxliery shaft to break.


how is it possible to "overtighten" the timing chain?



think your best option is to buy a wrecker motor, at least that will have some sort of warantee

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:26 pm 
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shnoza wrote:
Only way to fix that is to get a new motor. Same thing happened to me. Fixed the headgasket and over tighten the timing chain. Which casued the auxliery shaft to break.


how is it possible to "overtighten" the timing chain?



think your best option is to buy a wrecker motor, at least that will have some sort of warantee


its kinda too late for me to buy another motor, ive already bought all the parts needed to fix it, cost me enough too lol.

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:51 pm 
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got some pics for ya.

we got quite a shock when we pulled the auxillary shaft out.

it dosent look any more than about 30,000km old.

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cant tell which ones the new one can ya?

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:57 pm 
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this is what we found in the oil pickup filter. the slivers are teeth of the aux shaft, the chunks are pieces of timing chain guide.

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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:20 pm 
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did you go back to the dealer at all...i think you'll find that they HAVE to give you a 30 day warranty...

 

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