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 Post subject: BA Engine into XH Ute
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:15 am 
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Just wondering if anyone on this forum has dropped a BA engine into a XH ute?

What mods need to be done. I have been informed that i will have to mod the sump because of the K member in the ute.

I wish to retain the original 5spd. I have been told the a AU bell housing will fix this problem. Has anyone heard differant?

Any feedback, information or contact details to people who know will be appreciated.

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:00 am 
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g'day try doing a search on ba into EL EF or wateva. Theres around 100 topics on this all with the same answer.

In short you will need $$$$

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:45 pm 
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I've always wondered...

Would and EF/EL with a BA motor get considerably better fuel economy over a BA with BA motor?

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:06 pm 
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i thought that youd be better looking for ba engine into x series?

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:07 am 
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 Post subject: Re: BA Engine into XH Ute
Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:31 pm 
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XR_Matt wrote:
Just wondering if anyone on this forum has dropped a BA engine into a XH ute?

What mods need to be done. I have been informed that i will have to mod the sump because of the K member in the ute.

I wish to retain the original 5spd. I have been told the a AU bell housing will fix this problem. Has anyone heard differant?

Any feedback, information or contact details to people who know will be appreciated.


Searching through old posts regarding BA engine conversions is nothing short of an exercise in time wasting. A lot of it is little more than flaming by gallahs (that's a parrot), many of whom are sounding quite expert in the answers they imitate from others.

The short of it is it can be done if you see the outlay justifying the outcome. Visit some of you local Wreckers (the ones that specialise in Fords) and ask their advice, see if it's worth your while - see what deals can be struck. Why not come back to this forum and relay your findings for it might be nice to have some current facts on the matter. The opportunity exists, as it was when I got my AU bottom end conversion, that the BA motors being salvaged presently may not be at a stage where their ready market will be realised for a few years. Pre-market surplus may translate into real value, though you'll never know until you ask. I know engine management on the twin VCT can be solved with at least an Autronics SM2. I look forward to hearing your findings.

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:37 pm 
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Ive seen a BA engine in an XF so it can be done. Im trying to find the pics of his install.

 

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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:43 pm 
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EA engine mounts bolt streight onto the BA block, and the engine will sit perfectly on them. Problem1 - The engine sits to high on these mounts and the bonnet won't close. Problem2 - The AU/BA sump is much larger than the EF/EL tin version in the front and fouls the XG type sway bar (XF version would be worse as it sits even further back).
Have made a spacer that bolts onto the block, that relocates the engine mounts 25mm higher up the block (Caution left and right mount spacings are different - forgot about that!) The left mount spacer is more dificult to make as it requires relief around the oil filter mount and the oil pressure/turbo feed fitting.
In hind sight I think 25mm was to much as I now have the engine fitting under the bonnet but the front pulley and alternator are touching the front cross member. To fix this I am going to space the mounts that bolt onto the chassis up 5mm (Yeh I know sounds fiddley, but its going to work (I hope)). Space under bonnet might get tight and I still might have to cut a small section of the bonnet frame out.

Gearbox shifter sits back futher than the old four speed auto did. We had stiched in the 'hump' out of a EB auto for the Auto an d4.0 OHC engine but this time around I've just cut the hole a bit bigger. Sould still look factory with the shifter boot in place.

Power steer pump is slightly different from EF to BA, The EF version comes in from the back, where as the BA's come's in from underneath, so a quick visit to the local hydrulics man and a extra 90 deg swivel bend installed, and everything is happy.

I'm not planning on running the AC and at teh moment the pump is just being used as a idler for the drive belt, but I will end up atapting the EF non AC idler onto the engine.

The coolant pipe that goes behind the head fowls the fire wall if left in place. The EF type on sits down lower ontop of the bell housing but there is a sensor there in the BA engine. Hoping to do a bit of mixing and matching, Also the XF heater pipes are on the oppersite side to the BA ones so more mixing and matching needs to be done there.


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