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 Post subject: bbm converstion - flat spot between 2000 and 3500
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:18 pm 
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hows it goin, i finaly got around to putting my el bbm on my ed last week and now its got some errors that i wouldnt have a clue what to do with, just wondering if anyone could help

first error, 838. Evaporator Sensor shorted to B+ or Vref

second error, 522 NDS - A/C On

and , 792 FC2 Output Check Fail



thats all i got so far... but i do know that the butterflies dont flick open/shut

 

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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:27 pm 
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first of all! why did you put a bbm on an ed? the logs are a much better manifold! as for the codes, sounds like the ecu isn't Recognising the bbm,might need the el ecu?

 

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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:41 pm 
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because i wanted the better performance down low, and i have an el ecu in there already. eb-ed ecu's dont have three digit codes


but thanks for your input anyway

 

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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:47 pm 
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sorry there mate! wasn't taking a shot at ya,just that i know a few mates that have been playing with manifolds; twin tbs,logs and modi bbm and so far the logs have worked the best! I know hp-hungry has a bbm on his eb and it didn't do much good! but hey your welcome to try!!

 

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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:00 pm 
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na your right mate, im not really goin for any figures or anything i just want something that feels a little better off the line, and with the bbm its a s**t load better altho the accereator peddel is so much more touchy

 

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 Post subject: Re: bbm converstion
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:31 pm 
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adrian` wrote:
hows it goin, i finaly got around to putting my el bbm on my ed last week and now its got some errors that i wouldnt have a clue what to do with, just wondering if anyone could help

first error, 838. Evaporator Sensor shorted to B+ or Vref

second error, 522 NDS - A/C On

and , 792 FC2 Output Check Fail



thats all i got so far... but i do know that the butterflies dont flick open/shut



the first code is there because el's have a sensor on the aircon evaporator where ed doesnt have it..

im not to sure why you got the 2nd one

and the 3rd one is for thermo fan do you have the el thermo fans fitted aswell ?

ive got the el ecu and i get the evaperator code 838.
i also get codes 777 and 778 both cooling fans not operating
also codes 791 and 792 both cooling fans open circuit..

i get these codes because my thermo fans are not conected to the ecu..
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:41 pm 
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yea i just let the diagnosis run right threw and come up with 7 codes, 837 Evaporator Sensor shorted to ground, 522 A/C on (which it isnt), 791 792 777 778 all of which are thermos that i dont have yet. and then i got a 795 which is the BBM Output Check Fail, so i recon i used a wrong wire for the little vacum f**k behind the washer bottle




EDIT: and one other thing, it doesnt really idle very well... up around 1500-1100 then drop down to normal an so on

 

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Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:05 am 
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adrian` wrote:
837 Evaporator Sensor shorted to ground

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the first code is there because el's have a sensor on the aircon evaporator where ed doesnt have it..
You will find the earlier E series (not sure if this means EA-ED) run a long alloy tube with an adjuster as the evaporator temp sensor - EF/EL's run a bulb which sits at the end of two wires. I suspect the voltage calibrations differ between the two - I've had code 837 on my XH since I bought it (A/C always worked fine though) - replacing the temp sensor for a later one cleared the code. I suspect the XH runs an EL ECU, hence the code.

Only prob is you need to cut a hole in the airbox to install it, and I think the access hole and grommet are just out of sight of the glovebox area behind the dash.
You can still plug the later type one in to test this theory though.
If your Climate control works fine, I wouldn't bother with the codes. Are you getting any CC faults, e.g. E6, E7, etc

 

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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:43 am 
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sounds interesting, might give that a go one day when i got some spare time

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:27 pm 
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well now its all running fine but i have a flat spot between 2000 and 3500, would that have anything to do with the el ecu?

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:20 pm 
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u need to add a extra wiring to the ECU connector to activiate the vacumn module or try to run full vac to the BBM port to open the butterflies inside that is waht causing the delay

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:59 pm 
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yea na iv already done all that, its all done, just a flat spot

 

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