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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:01 pm 
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My bad. All I did was look at the cam listings
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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:38 pm 
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So you mean to tell me it has a turbo grind cam in it? who made that decision? who's going to fix it?.
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:42 pm 
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RAPTOR_XR8 wrote:
So you mean to tell me it has a turbo grind cam in it? who made that decision? who's going to fix it?.


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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:15 am 
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well thats unfortunate i would be making sure and contacting atomic to be certain. dont drive the car too far dont spose it matters now you have wound it out on a dyno though good luck.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:25 am 
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I want to know if atomic knew it was going in a n/a car or if its customer error. If the OP has f**k up its tough titty but you would think through small talk the sales bloke would have found out it was going in an n/a engine unless it was a net buy.
The link I posted from fordforums had a stage 4 atomic cam they have listed as for na or turbo setup, so maybe you can get a variant? Either that or another fordforum threads talking s**t lol
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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:20 am 
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Atomic cams have gone in a number of NA cars before, ive seen a high stalled BF auto go 218rwkw with 4+'s and a FG manual go 220rwkw with 4's.

Not my personal pick for cams though. CMS themselves i believe recommend Crow Cams. The main difference with them to suit the turbo's seem to be longer exhaust duration, where Crow and Camtech keep equal duration on inlet and exhaust, unless you go custom.
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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:28 am 
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Turbo/supercharger cams usually have an LSA of 114* to 116*.......112* would be wasting boost.
Maybe the engine should have a degree wheel chucked on it to see what you really have.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:36 am 
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Turbo/supercharger cams usually have an LSA of 114* to 116*.......112* would be wasting boost.
Maybe the engine should have a degree wheel chucked on it to see what you really have.

I would have thought just looking at the spec's there would be some kind of improvement, but then when I read about them being designed for boosted car's and its in a N/A I thought the OP has zero chance now of a return or complaint.
Good point though, I suppose it would depend on what the cost will be to have it checked out. The op has already spent good money on tunes and the cam, maybe cut the losses and sell it and grab another set?
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:43 pm 
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After a long discussion with Joe @ cms we are going to put the stock cams back in and tune it to see what power it makes. I think that's the only way to see if it the cams. The engine as been thoroughly checked and is in %100 working order . Joe is pretty confident that it will make the same if not more power.

It's not just that it didn't make power the car takes ages to start and constantly stalls at lights it's just a dog. And it's not like there an over aggressive cam or anything or that cms is new to this kind of thing. They could do cams with there eyes closed lol. As for ppl saying there for boosted cars. The stage 4. Part no 306551 are very much for n/a 6. Although after talking to a few tuners who speak very highly of atomics parts for turbo cars they said stay away from their n/a stuff , it pays to ask around before spending your hard earnt $$$$$

It's all getting done in a week or so. I just hope it's not my car cos I'm going to be one very broke person plus my wife is going to kill me lol.
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 Post subject: Re: Camshaft disappointment.
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:34 pm 
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The car made 171rwkw with the stock cams back in. So I will be sending them back to atomic.
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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:20 pm 
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Hi matemight be abit late but i have the sane camshafts maybe lol, but these came require the c9mpression to be raised, so you might need to rebulid the bigend, i did it the cheats way and got the head shaved, if you look you travs na xr6. Might help
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