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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:06 pm 
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HaZZa, what model car you got? i have an ea manual box etc here to go into the ef. jees hope i dont have this much problems!

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:11 pm 
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oh and just for reffrence the car the box is going inotis a 93II eb that i think was an ex copcar. for one reason in the log book it was registered to the comminsioner of police and on back of the cluster it has a tag with police written oin itaswell as another tag with


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heres a pic of the car from today

 

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:15 pm 
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the bolt holes are not uniformly even. Keep turning the flywheel and you will find they will line up.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:24 pm 
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they couldnt if u lookat thebottom ofthe pic where there on top ofeach other there out by 10-15 mm..there'sno way they could line up..
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:26 pm 
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yea just noticed the spigot size looks too big. I reckon they have supplied the wrong flywheel.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:30 pm 
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yeh dammm idiots.

oh well me missus is letting me use he rcar to go trake down everything. bigest pain in the a** this hasbeen. ill keep u all inform on my progress.. and howshe goe's in he end ..


cheer's for all ya help guys
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:36 pm 
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HaZZa wrote:
thanks for that snap 0964 just did the test and it cam back to a eb IIonwards box... so what would be the clutch /flywheel toget ?? ????considering the clutch above on the right is an eb onward one and matches he flywheel but he fly wheel dosnt match the motor ??
No probs Dude.
I was under the impression that EA or later flywheels would fit any E series crank, the only thing to watch for is that the holes are offset as macxr8 has said - this means they aren't perfectly hexagonal. It's a bit hard to tell from the pic, but it does look like that driveplate and the flywheel have different pitch - all I can suggest is the same as macxr8, try that first.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:38 pm 
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I had a EA box etc bolted up to an EL with no dramas. All flywheels are the same pitch etc from EA thru to AU at least. EA & EBI have a smaller flywheel, EBII on have the larger clutch and flywheel.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:49 pm 
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I had a EA box etc bolted up to an EL with no dramas. All flywheels are the same pitch etc from EA thru to AU at least. EA & EBI have a smaller flywheel, EBII on have the larger clutch and flywheel.
Thanks for that info macxr8 - wouldn't the flywheel diameters be the same in all ??? I say that because I think you'll find the BTR autos and all the T5's would have the same position for the starter motor in their respective bellhousing casts - hence for engagement onto the ring gear. AFAIK the only difference between flywheels are the drilled holes for the pressure plate.

EDIT: Hazza, I'm about to put an EA box and EA clutch gear into my EL wagon - that flywheel is definately the wrong one, just checked mine. The other giveaway just dawned on me - the ring gear diameter between the driveplate and the flywheel in your pic is different diameter - should be the same.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:51 pm 
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yeh it is a tad smaller too so i say it is the wrong one heresapic ofth 2 together and the diffrence all round

 

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:56 pm 
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Dont think they are the same size on the face, cause when I bought the conversion, I got the wrong clutch and looked at redrilling it to suit the bigger clutch and it would not go. Maybe the have a bigger ring gear to compensate?

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:27 pm 
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Here's couple of pics of an EA 3 bolter if that helps . . . .

Most people will recommend you change the engine rear main bearing seal while the box is out, given the age of the car, also probably wouldn't hurt to replace the front and rear seals of the T5 before it goes in as well, machine the (correct!!) flywheel front face as well . . . .

 

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:13 pm 
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the flywheel they gave you IS NOT from an Inline 6 engine. the I6 has a nuetral balance flywheel.
the one you have there, has a counter ballance weight on it

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:13 pm 
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yep thats true just got back and its of a v6 commie.. gotthe right one now and the new clutch i already have fits on the only thing is i dont have the 3bolts to boltit on.so off to get some tomorw from covertries or somewhere.
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:18 pm 
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cheeres for everyones help about this.has been a pain in the a** but allsorted cant wait to finish work tomorow get the bolts and wack it all back together and take her out fora spin... just hope the rain holds off till im done.
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