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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:51 am 
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So about 125rwkw, from a 182fwkw (factory figure) car.
About a 31% driveline loss for this vehicle.
It's pretty much around everyones guesses.

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:13 am 
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You say correction factor at zero.

do the run on a 10 deg day and on a 30 deg day.
without correction, you will see some changes.
also what weather was the original ford engine run at, I bet that was done with atmospheric correction.

 

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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:19 am 
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v8capri wrote:
You say correction factor at zero.

do the run on a 10 deg day and on a 30 deg day.
without correction, you will see some changes.
also what weather was the original ford engine run at, I bet that was done with atmospheric correction.


ok

maybe i should of word it differently

the air temp sensor at the snork measure the anbaint air temperature and the software does the corrections whether im testing on a 10 degree day or whether im testing on 40 degree day the compensation is doen automatically

dyno dynanmics introduced this correction factor in there main screan for some reason which i have no explanation for some dynos have it some dont

im under the impression there lates dyno software do no allow u to thudge the dyno figure by using the correction fact X .

so the dyno figure im quoting is taken into consideration the air temp the test was conducted

i have seen some guys run there air temperature sensor for the dyno pinned on the workshop wall and all sorts of other places which doesnt read the correct incoming air into the engine

so if the sensors is attached to something very warm(hot) or very cold it will make a h compensation adjustment to the horsepower reading higher or lower figure



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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:14 pm 
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:49 pm 
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FPV_GTp
You were closest

Will there be mods done on this car and dynoing after each mod to see the difference in power?

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:15 am 
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That is a bit surprising. Most ba fords put out 135rwkws. Perhaps they were manual. Allowing for manual to auto lossess ...this puts the autos power drain compared to manual at 10 rwkws.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:45 pm 
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Looks about right for a dead stock auto. I have seen a BA Manaul ute with cat back exhaust run 135rwkw thats all.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:24 pm 
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voids wrote:
most of the stories ive heard when problems happen is when th car gets flogged from the start but the cars that get treated easy for the first 5000km go a lot harder and less problems. later thats what i was led to believe but then again a flogged engin isnt going to last as long as a engin treated well. when i worked at the open cut we had a few vehicles and they got rhreemed from day 1 and at 70 000km they go like crap gutless. but the supervisors vehicle that never gets flogged seems to go a lot harder now with the same kms. i'll stick to my theory and drive a new car soft for the first 5000km.



there is a difference between getting flogged and being driven properly.

but hey what would i know right. i was only the person rebuilding the engines.

don't p***y around a new engine you'll f**k it

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:52 pm 
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i agree with tickford_6, but at the same time, i wouldn't redline it or bounce it off the limiter.

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:20 pm 
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tickford_6 wrote:
voids wrote:
most of the stories ive heard when problems happen is when th car gets flogged from the start but the cars that get treated easy for the first 5000km go a lot harder and less problems. later thats what i was led to believe but then again a flogged engin isnt going to last as long as a engin treated well. when i worked at the open cut we had a few vehicles and they got rhreemed from day 1 and at 70 000km they go like crap gutless. but the supervisors vehicle that never gets flogged seems to go a lot harder now with the same kms. i'll stick to my theory and drive a new car soft for the first 5000km.



there is a difference between getting flogged and being driven properly.

but hey what would i know right. i was only the person rebuilding the engines.

don't p***y around a new engine you'll f**k it

but then what would one class as driven properly?
one thing i have done in my car is warm it up before any harsh accelaration and seems to still run prety good.

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:59 am 
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Guys i am going to mod this car slowly
so i was just looking for a baseline on
what i have so then Ivan and i can work from there

first mods are going to be a K & N filter and a ba turbo air intake
will post up results when i do this
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 11:34 am 
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Brett 4777 wrote:
Guys i am going to mod this car slowly
so i was just looking for a baseline on
what i have so then Ivan and i can work from there

first mods are going to be a K & N filter and a ba turbo air intake
will post up results when i do this


Wouldn't expect power gains from these mods!?

Thats all just service and cosmetic stuff for a stock car.

catback exhaust would be the first make a difference on a dyno power mod to do.

waste of time to dyno after those mods uless you drop the IT temp sensor on you radiator like the manufactures of this gear to make it look good.
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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:23 pm 
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hi

You would be surprised how restrictive a standard air filter is.

Just try and run your car without an airfilter in the box and see what happens.

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Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:42 pm 
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FPV_GTp wrote:
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You would be surprised how restrictive a standard air filter is.

Just try and run your car without an airfilter in the box and see what happens.

cheers

yeah, probably only on rainy days when the air is clean/dust free & all the bugs are in hiding. already tried it. :lol:

 

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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:18 pm 
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UPDATE GUYS

this morning i ran the car up again at Ivan's

this time with a bf typhoon dual air intake
a bf typhoon cold air intake and a k&n hi flow air filter

The settings and conditions were exactly the same as the first time we did
the dyno runs just to make sure there was no fudging of the figures

we made i think 4 dyno runs ramping up and ramping down in second gear so the tests were exactly the same as the first time

this time with just these three new items on the car we picked up around nine kws at the wheels

will get Ivan to put up the graphs of the day for all to see what the new figures were

i have to say it surprised both of us the difference in the readings today from the originals


Many thanks to Ivan for helping me with this little project of mine
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