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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:18 am 
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:P have built up an eb to a point i need help on ideas 4 performance i have race seat, seat belts ,sport steering wheel ,wheels , tyres ,king lows , pedders short GSR shocks ,genie extractors ,2.5 system ,hi flow cat , cold air intake ,k&n filters ,minor head work , NO CAM NO INLET MANIFOLD .ENGINE MODS? WHAT DO U RECKON ???????????????????????????????? 8-)
i thought about running in improved production class on weekends
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:30 pm 
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well what are racing for? catergory? is it a drag car or a track car?
basically you want power high in the rev range and a manual box!

soem racing catergorys have set engine specs u have to build to

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:02 pm 
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Try Weight reduction. Check your class rules but you can remove alot of the sound deadening. Chuck the stereo/lower half of the dash, rear seats, roof panel etc. Perhaps if you get more serious put in a roll cage - do it properly and it will stiffen the chassis too.
Manual for sure and a good clutch. You should consider aftermarket management after a few mods. Brakes? tyres? Adjustable swaybars should be worth their weight in gold.
The 4 litre doesn't really want to rev so think about your driving style. Try to aim for a good mid-high range torque. You should be making good power from about 2600 - 5500.

I am assuming this car is a race car only, just drive it to the track not an everyday car.

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:38 pm 
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chuck a 351 in it! ha that would be awesome!
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uprated sway bars.

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:39 pm 
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track racing in club events & hillclimbs :P

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well what are racing for? catergory? is it a drag car or a track car?
basically you want power high in the rev range and a manual box!

soem racing catergorys have set engine specs u have to build to

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:44 pm 
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Try Weight reduction. Check your class rules but you can remove alot of the sound deadening. Chuck the stereo/lower half of the dash, rear seats, roof panel etc. Perhaps if you get more serious put in a roll cage - do it properly and it will stiffen the chassis too.
Manual for sure and a good clutch. You should consider aftermarket management after a few mods. Brakes? tyres? Adjustable swaybars should be worth their weight in gold.
The 4 litre doesn't really want to rev so think about your driving style. Try to aim for a good mid-high range torque. You should be making good power from about 2600 - 5500.

I am assuming this car is a race car only, just drive it to the track not an everyday car.



yeah thanks on the ideas would u lose much weight taking that all out of inside maybe brakes how are the dba rotors any way can i leave the auto in 4 speed p / e switch

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:57 pm 
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get a cam
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:05 pm 
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clutch, diff ratio to 3.7, slicks, cam and chip.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:33 am 
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If you’re going to stick with the auto then at least put a shift kit through it. DBA are good but if you’re using it as a race car take it to someone and get your callipers reconditioned, since they are an older car and the last thing you want is problems with the brakes. Safety should be top of your list. Still manual conversion is well worth it, and as everyone’s said 'CAM', get the ECU reprogrammed (especially the throttle mapping, those damn things are like on/off switches) you'll probably want a little more control, and as EFFalcon said; upgrade your sway bars. Weight reduction works well for them too, the i6 sure as hell notices additional or less weight. The stock EB head flowed rather well, but you can always get a light port and polish. The labour on that would be around $300 - $400 (not including removal and fitting) and you can get the exhaust valves upgraded at the same time to 41mm Tickford valves for usually around $130. Take about 30 to 40 thou off the head (shouldn’t cost more than $80), cant go much more than that due to it being an overhead cam. Offcourse removal and fitting is probably going to cost between $500 to $1000 depending on who does it. Umm, oh ye, get rid of the clutch fan! Pickup a set of AU thermos, or EL, or EF, any will do, and set them up instead. Well worth it there too, engine reves a hell of allot more freely. But again check out your class, you may not even be able to do half of what’s being suggested.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:13 am 
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If you’re going to stick with the auto then at least put a shift kit through it. DBA are good but if you’re using it as a race car take it to someone and get your callipers reconditioned, since they are an older car and the last thing you want is problems with the brakes. Safety should be top of your list. Still manual conversion is well worth it, and as everyone’s said 'CAM', get the ECU reprogrammed (especially the throttle mapping, those damn things are like on/off switches) you'll probably want a little more control, and as EFFalcon said; upgrade your sway bars. Weight reduction works well for them too, the i6 sure as hell notices additional or less weight. The stock EB head flowed rather well, but you can always get a light port and polish. The labour on that would be around $300 - $400 (not including removal and fitting) and you can get the exhaust valves upgraded at the same time to 41mm Tickford valves for usually around $130. Take about 30 to 40 thou off the head (shouldn’t :D cost more than $80), cant go much more than that due to it being an overhead cam. Offcourse removal and fitting is probably going to cost between $500 to $1000 depending on who does it. Umm, oh ye, get rid of the clutch fan! Pickup a set of AU thermos, or EL, or EF, any will do, and set them up instead. Well worth it there too, engine reves a hell of allot more freely. But again check out your class, you may not even be able to do half of what’s being suggested.

:D hey yeah a few things there i have over looked might mess with sway bars which ones would be good ? :? thermos good idea i wonder how hard that we ll be i to fit up may b :wink: e second hand on ll look on e bay

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:31 pm 
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thermos good idea i wonder how hard that we ll be i to fit up may b :wink: e second hand on ll look on e bay

better off just contacting a wrecker or pm xr8dismantler as they can be difficult to get hold of, but he's always got em

 

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:16 pm 
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get a cam

yeah thats a good idea which cam where from WADE? MAYBE IS THERE A LOT OF WORK TO INSTALL

 

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:20 pm 
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chuck a 351 in it! ha that would be awesome!

TO HARD I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A NIGHT MARE TO UPGRADE 351 IS A GREAT IDEA IF I TOOK THE 351 5PD BOX OUT OF MY TRUCK IT WOULD GO VERY WELL (AWESOME) YES IT WOULD :evil:

 

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 Post subject: EB RACE CAR STILL GETTING IDEA S MAKIN PROGRESS
Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 2:29 pm 
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BRAKES!
clutch, diff ratio to 3.7, slicks, cam and chip.

YEAH NOT BAD IDEAS 3.7 DIFF FINAL DRIVE MAY SEEM A BIT TALL I LOOKED AT V8 SUPER CARS THERE FINAL DRIVE IS ABOUT 3:23:1 AND XR6 USE 3:55:1 BUT THE XR8 USE THE SAME AS A V8 SUPER CAR ,WOULD TICKFORD BRAKES THE 4 SPOT TYPE FIT IN A EB IF I UPGRADE THE WHEELS TO 17 ".I CANT RUN SLICKS HAVE TO USE RACING TYRE FROM DUNLOP CONTROL TYRE .STILL WORKIN ON THE BEST CHIP IVE USED CHIP TOURQUE B4 SEEM ALRIGHT IS THERE BETTER ONES AVILABLE :roll:

 

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