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 Post subject: EB stutters/stalls all the time
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:24 pm 
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Hi all my eb stalls all the time these days. You'll just be driving along fine then give it a bit and itll just stall and wont start for a while. Also, WOT from idle it bangs, shudders and f@rt around for a while before revving. Have so far tried:

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clean throttle body
vac hose from fuel reg
spark is ok
bypassed ISC
reset ecu

Thinking about trying another fuel regulator, really dont want to spend much money as I am selling the car. Anyone got any other ideas other than the regulator?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB stutters/stalls all the time
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:47 pm 
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Is timing correct?

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB stutters/stalls all the time
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:04 am 
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low fuel pressure? injectors/filter

half tank of premium & some octane booster might make it go away long enough to sell it

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB stutters/stalls all the time
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:39 am 
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gotta be timing.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EB stutters/stalls all the time
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 3:32 pm 
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Update:
This morning refurbished dissy cap, rotor button, plugs, leads are good, tried with and without vac hose on regulator (was told it increases pressure without the hose on, not sure but didnt work anyway). Tried premium, octane booster and some additive crap to "clean the injectors", probably did f**k all. Also completely took out t/b and ic and cleaned it fully, and made new gaskets for both.

RE: Timing. I havent f**k around with it but Id assume it is, cos the car will run fine then just out of nowhere it stutters and dies. Usually pretty low in the rev range but not always. Wont start for a few minutes either. I can hear the injectors clicking and the fact it runs good when its not dying I'd say theyre probably all ok. It will rev to 5500rpm and hold it for ages so Id assume that fuel pressure isnt really an issue.

The pump was replaced before I bought the car and the last owner was a douchebag and got sick of the problem. Could it be the fuel pickup? I cant get the bloody pump out.

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:04 pm 
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Chuck a new coil in it. And some new leads and plugs for good measure.
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:06 pm 
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fuel and a match? :o

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:09 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
fuel and a match? :o


Timing will still be out tho.... Bit old tech using a match man, next it'll be smash the sump off and the rocker cover off and just pour the oil in as you go like them old constant loss De Dions from 1899... :p
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:35 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
fuel and a match? :o

Very tempting.

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 4:44 pm 
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Haha, or a long push off a short cliff, my car makes me feel this way sometimes

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:23 pm 
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Update 2: Got fuel pump out, took off filter thing but didnt change the problem.
Timing either goes from "doesnt start/run" to "idle goes up and problem still there/worse". Got it to the best place where the problem is pretty much the same but the car doesnt completely die. Now you go along, hit about 2500rpm or give it WOT, it will die, drop speed, then come back to life and then jerks and jerks then comes good. Have a really good spark thanks to ignition overhaul this morning. So have now ruled out:

Dizzy
Coil
Leads
Plugs
Fuel pump
Regulator vaccumm hose
PCV hoses (I think, there were no loose ones)
TPS
ISC
Throttle body
Intake manifold leak ( I tightened the bolts, they were a bit loose )
o2 sensor (unplugged, didnt change problem)
Injectors (all clicking)


So, it starts and idles beatifully, stab the throttle in neutral and itll rev beatifully, its only once you get going and give it WOT or even heavy throttle that itll stutter, die and then come back to life. Tried everything I can think of, I doubt its the fuel regulator or the fuel filter

oh yeah aswell, I think Im missing the nut and braket that hold the dizzy down, I cant really see in there (what a s**t of a place to put a dissy) but I can move it by hand easily. I didnt put it in diagnostic mode because a)couldnt find the plug and b)it worked without doing it.

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:31 pm 
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oh yeah aswell, I think Im missing the nut and braket that hold the dizzy down, I cant really see in there (what a s**t of a place to put a dissy) but I can move it by hand easily. I didnt put it in diagnostic mode because a)couldnt find the plug and b)it worked without doing it.

so the timing can just move whenever you hit a bump? you need to put it into diagnostic mode and check its correct, then you need the bolt that holds the distributor in place so the timing cant move out of place,

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:41 pm 
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bry40l wrote:
93_eb_fairmont wrote:

oh yeah aswell, I think Im missing the nut and braket that hold the dizzy down, I cant really see in there (what a s**t of a place to put a dissy) but I can move it by hand easily. I didnt put it in diagnostic mode because a)couldnt find the plug and b)it worked without doing it.

so the timing can just move whenever you hit a bump? you need to put it into diagnostic mode and check its correct, then you need the bolt that holds the distributor in place so the timing cant move out of place,

Maybe I shouldnt have said "easily" but I can move it by hand. I would be amazed if a bump could turn it.

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:53 pm 
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if you can move it by hand theres still a problem though

 

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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:58 pm 
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Dont really care if it catches fire a day after I sell it let alone advances/retards a degree. Ive just got to get the thing to drive a few k's without breaking down.

 

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