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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:25 pm 
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Hazza i got a timing light if you wanna borrow it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:31 pm 
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cheers but going ot get one from my dad this arvo then go to rocko to pick up a nissan pulsar of my bro so i can get to work lol

just found out that the pulsar has a f**k powersteering hose and frunt brakes r f**k so gotta fix that too
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:34 pm 
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well now im really really p****d off.

got a batt charger charged it up . played around re seating the dizzy this arvo and got her running not so bad ( still need timing light to get ti better. ) but now a new prob has arisen

as i was looking over towards the zorst i noticed som oil at the back of the motor running down next to the bell housing. sure enought its looks like coming from the head gasket (that was just done while motr was out) the head wend back on no worries all torqued up and tighten another 90' so i thought oh s**t. looked in the oil cap and could see a few droplets of water. .. (i think) may be silver paint over spray.

well now just took the rocker cover off and cant see ne water thinking maybe the back of the rocker cover gasket wasnt on right and its leaked out. coz i pussed the car back and saw a nice big puddle of oil . thinking if it was the head it prob wouldnt be that much ?

but if it is the head well

im confuzzled on what the f**k to do.

and why its leaking

after the head got skimmed and the block was cleaned right back with gasket remover a blade and steel wool.

this has been the worst last 2 weeks.

 

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:00 pm 
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Are you sure the oil is comming from the head gasket and not the rocker cover? Ive been caught a couple of times when the rocker cover gasket has pinched at the 1/2 moon at the back and it weaps oil down onto the top of the bellhousing.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:06 pm 
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guess if i pull the plug and it is the gasket then it would have oil all over it
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:09 pm 
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well plugs fine . i think im right for now . bloody hope so .

just thought whenit was popping and s**t it may of blow the gasket or something
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:20 pm 
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if that oil/water mix dripped from you car when it wasnt running it shouldnt be the rocker cover gasket as it isnt full of oil, only circulates when the cars running.
as for the rough idleing, make sure you connect the front pcv hose to the fuel breather line to the bottom of the inlet manifold. i think its different on eb/eds. ef/el use a three point conector like an E with out the top -.
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:34 pm 
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thats kewl all sused out was just the rocker cover gasket.

as for the motor it makes great power on cyl 4,5,6 but not the rest .

gotta do compression test as the plugs r getting oiled up.

so if compression test goes bad motor will be comming back out and will get the bottom end redone. more then likely forged pistons (of some brand) then might as well get a big cam of some brand and go for power .

thinking might just get the eb motor some new stem seals and berings and gaskets and wack her back in, in the mean time with the bbm.

then afterwards dropp the el motor in .
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:34 pm 
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thats kewl all sused out was just the rocker cover gasket.

as for the motor it makes great power on cyl 4,5,6 but not the rest .

gotta do compression test as the plugs r getting oiled up.

so if compression test goes bad motor will be comming back out and will get the bottom end redone. more then likely forged pistons (of some brand) then might as well get a big cam of some brand and go for power .

thinking might just get the eb motor some new stem seals and berings and gaskets and wack her back in, in the mean time with the bbm.

then afterwards dropp the el motor in .
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:25 pm 
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well compresion test came back


cyl 1 = 0
cyl 2 = 130
cyl 3 =130
cyl 4 = 130
cyl 5 = 127
cyl 6 = 125

so somethings up with 1. should prob do a leak down test and go from there . but now just thinking to rip the head off and go get the stg 3 from KEC then get some forged pistons new rings bearings etc.

depends on funds and time
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:30 pm 
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FEATURES

New O.E. valves.
High flowing valve seats.
New valve locks.
Radius leading edge on exhaust valve.
Threads re-tapped.
Exhaust valves are backcut.
Head gasket faces re-machined.
Intake valves are backcut.
Full set of K Line guides.
Blending the valve seat to the bowl.
Bowl machine work.
Large Valves.
New 4140 valve retainers.
New valve stem seals.
Valve tips equalized.
Spring pressure checked.
Combustion chambers relieved.
All spring heights are re-corrected.
New set of chrome silicon valve springs.
Valve heights equalized.
Hot tanked.
Sand Blasted.
Vacuum tested.
Clean, assemble and pass quality testing.

OPTIONAL EXTRAS

Top gasket set - V8:$210, 6 Cyl:$187.
One piece stainless valves - V8:$562, 6 Cyl:$462.
Roller Rockers - V8:$693, 6 Cyl:$660.
Standard rockers - V8:$150, 6 Cyl:$95.
LPG conversion kit - V8:$528, 6 Cyl:$447.
3Additional port work - V8:$750, 6 Cyl:$700.
Chrome taller rocker covers - V8:$105 6 Cyl:$95.


ENGINE-POWER-TORQUE USING KEC HEAD AND CAM KIT

308 Holden 288HP@273ft.lbs.
302 Cleveland 260HP@275ft.lbs.
351 Cleveland 360HP@340ft.lbs. with cnc heads 420hp@400lbs
350 Chev 350HP@330ft.lbs.
6 Cyl Hold. 202 180HP@170ft.lbs.
304 Holden EFI 260HP@285ft.lbs.
253 Holden 258HP@240ft.lbs.
351 Windsor 290HP@283ft.lbs.
302 Windsor 240HP@235ft.lbs.
400 Chev 374HP@370ft.lbs.
250 Falcon 200HP@180ft.lbs.
355 Holden EFI 326HP@320ft.lbs. 355 efi carby with cnc heads 450hp@420lbs
V6 HOLDEN 225HP@258.lbs.
4 litre falcon 265hp@279lbs
VL Holden Rb30 215hp@258lbs
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:56 pm 
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far out man that some pretty low compression there..
you might want to look into your bottom end aswell..

do you know how many kms were on the engine??
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:48 pm 
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yeh 148 thou

well just ripped the head off and found the damage lol

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basicl bent No 1 zorst valve pretty bad

dented piston 1 twice.

neway heads been taken away going to get new valve put in and reseated. etc

hopefully have it going as soon as its back .

 

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:39 am 
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ouch!!

looks like cam timing was out..
that would explain the low compression..
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:10 am 
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Might pay to check the rocker arms are not cracked while its down..
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agree with arm79 90% of ford service team wouldn't know the boot from bonnet. diagnosed my blocked up cat as a fcuked fuel pump & regulator.
They have a diagnostics plug for a reason ?
I am sure that the catch here is that if you asked them to point out the bonnet before you agreed to them servicing the car then they would be adjusting the price of the labour accordingly.
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