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 Post subject: EL not starting
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:18 pm 
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Hey guys as the title states my el isn't starting.... It's got fuel, spark and pulse to the injectors and is also cranking fine. So it can't be smartlock. I have just put in a new fuel rail with injectors and reg thinking it was that but to no avail :(

Does anyone have any clue as to what else it could be? The fuel pump is also fine I tested it when the fuel rail was out.

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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:10 pm 
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Stale fuel?.. has it sat for a long time? How much fuel pressure is actually there? Replaced fuel filter as may not be enough pressure?

Are you cirtain it has spark when cranking? Use a timing light on all leads and get someone to crank it while you check,

It has me stumped also if everything you have said is correct..

My guess is stale fuel.. siphon the tank and put some fresh 98 in her.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:19 pm 
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Hasn't been sitting........ It's my daily driver and when it died I had only just pulled out of the servo :( needed to get towed
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:17 pm 
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fuel from servo may have been faulty or you may have put diesel in ? ...........spray some start ya bastard or similar and see if it fires at all ......................check if plugs are fuel fouled ??
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:30 am 
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Deff not diesel. Tried some aero start last night but to no avail didn't even try to fire checked spark on all leads and comes up good. Plugs not fouled either :(
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:05 pm 
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check for codes - check map sensor blue/yellow wire - frequency on multimeter 150/160 KHZ with ignition on -what is fuel pressure & delivery rate - TFI module can be faulty and still spark ie. fires at wrong time - aux shaft ? -
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:23 am 
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have you done a voltage reference test on the sensors,test ground outputs and reference inputs?
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:22 am 
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Thanks for the suggestions guys will head out today and give them a go then post up my results
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:58 pm 
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Just asking the interior light working correctly ? in same rare cases i have seen them wind over for some reason but not fire, and the interior light fuse blows and causes it to stop, usually you just get no wind over, but just something to check.

Would try run it off carby clean or a little be of something in the throttle body and if you get it running like someone mentioned all good, failed ignition coil ?

Should have read it fully, you did not cross the return and incoming supply lines incorrectly when you done the fuel rail ?

 

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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:08 pm 
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Bit of an update. Interior light is working fine I took the rocker cover off the check the valve timing seems all good I wound it to TDC and the rotor on the dizzy was pointing between 3-4 and when I took the rotor off the whole dizzy shaft span freely.... This makes me think that the dizzy gears or the aux shaft has been chewed out???? But if that were the case I didn't think it would spark on all cylinders??? I'm going to pull the dizzy out tomorrow to have a sus. Hopefully I'm onto something.

Thanks for all the help
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:56 pm 
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Double check the cap, rotor, button etc. also spark test all the leads

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:43 pm 
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shaft should NOT spin by turning with your hand !
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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:52 pm 
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Found the problem... Aux shaft chewed all it's gears out also found my oil pump is gone and my timing tensioner is broken also. I'm thinking it might be cheaper to find a second hand motor to drop in....
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:57 pm 
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79esky! wrote:
Found the problem... Aux shaft chewed all it's gears out also found my oil pump is gone and my timing tensioner is broken also. I'm thinking it might be cheaper to find a second hand motor to drop in....

Oil pump runs off the dizzy which runs off the aux shaft. Motors better off replaced once those bits of metal go through everything.
Was it a genuine bosch dizzy? Cheapo dizzy gears dont fit 100% and eventually flog out the aux shaft
Reason there was still spark is because it probably spun intermittently but out of time.

 

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 Post subject: Re: EL not starting
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:20 pm 
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Yea it was a Bosch dizzy yea deffinatly on te hunt for another motor :(
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