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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:23 pm 
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hey just wanted to kno what oil i should buy like exactly , i have no idea
i have a el swagon 150 000km , would greatly appreciate it.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:23 pm 
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i just use Shell Helix Plus, 20W-50. works for me.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:32 pm 
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20w50 is too thick

15w40 is recommended for i6 falcons ea-el. 10w30 for au's

I have personally used penzoil, penrite and mobile and would recommend either.

stay away from castrol and valvoline, and if u want the best go fully synthetic. Mobile 1 ftw
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:43 pm 
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FORDom wrote:
20w50 is too thick

15w40 is recommended for i6 falcons ea-el. 10w30 for au's

I have personally used penzoil, penrite and mobile and would recommend either.

stay away from castrol and valvoline, and if u want the best go fully synthetic. Mobile 1 ftw


ive found 15W-40 makes my car tick a helluva lot after a high rev session, and also on cold starts. 20W-50 makes em all go away :P

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:00 am 
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yeah i've found 20/50 works the best.

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:11 am 
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FORDom wrote:
20w50 is too thick

15w40 is recommended for i6 falcons ea-el. 10w30 for au's

I have personally used penzoil, penrite and mobile and would recommend either.

stay away from castrol and valvoline, and if u want the best go fully synthetic. Mobile 1 ftw


I have used both 20w50 and 15w40. Both worked well in my current motor. But my older motor which had done more kilometres, I used 20w50 and it worked much much better then 15w40. Was told, the more k's on the clock, the thicker you should run the oil.

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:36 pm 
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Penrite HPR 15 (15W/60);

Semi-synthetic engine oil formulated primarily for use in modern engines that require SAE 15W-40 or 15W-50 grades such as pre 1997 Australian family cars.

Used this oil for about 2yrs(4 changes) and i always get 5 litres back, high oil pressure in 40 degree days, idle smooth, revs out to limiter easier, no rocker/lifter noise at all. Best oil money can buy for under $35. Engine has done 140000km.

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:43 pm 
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I use 10w40 Penzoil semi-synthetic, works great.

 

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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:34 pm 
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i got 15w60.. anything lower and when the engine is hot, the pressure is bugger all (sets off the alarm)

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:36 am 
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Using a thicker than specification oil causes a decrease in fuel economy doesn't it.

So you pay even more for 20-50w oil which wasn't necessary to begin with.
Then pay more for fuel because the engine now uses more because of the added resistance in the engine, caused by running a thicker grade of oil.

Not smart if you value a dollar..... 8-)
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:26 am 
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Kit wrote:
Using a thicker than specification oil causes a decrease in fuel economy doesn't it.

So you pay even more for 20-50w oil which wasn't necessary to begin with.
Then pay more for fuel because the engine now uses more because of the added resistance in the engine, caused by running a thicker grade of oil.

Not smart if you value a dollar..... 8-)


like it'd make any difference. i'm a mechanic so listen to me.

best way to stop the ticks of a 4L Falcon is to use a genuine Motorcraft oil filter and good quality 20w50 oil in a car with that many kms. i know using a Motorcraft filter sounds silly but there is a very good reason behind it. i will explain if necessary

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:48 am 
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Kit wrote:
Using a thicker than specification oil causes a decrease in fuel economy doesn't it.

So you pay even more for 20-50w oil which wasn't necessary to begin with.
Then pay more for fuel because the engine now uses more because of the added resistance in the engine, caused by running a thicker grade of oil.

Not smart if you value a dollar..... 8-)
put it this way, im happy to pay $.02 on added fuel due to "resistance" as upposed to paying for a new engine as mine will die from having no oil...

but then again... i just value a dollar.. 8-)

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:08 am 
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I only run 15-40w Valvoline. She has 205,000 k's on her, and she is quiet.

I tried the thicker oil once on advice from this forum, it made no difference at all. The only difference was that fuel use went up well over 12L per hundred.

Since going back to 15-40w around 3 to 4-years ago, she's still quiet, and fuel economy is back down to 11.2L per 100km's mix of city and highway.

But each to their own I say, I certainly don't want to change the opinions of others, as I don't not want anyone coming back saying, I went back to 15-40 and my engine blew up d***head... 8-) My opinion is only a view to the other side of the equation.

Do what you feel is right, only time will tell the difference.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:07 pm 
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It's all about experimenting really and since not all engines are equal internally, would mean each engine runs different with different grades.

Try each and see which is better. I have found that the thinner oil is better for my current motor but my last motor required a thicker one.

I'm talking from experience and not as a professional.

phong =P~

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:47 pm 
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If you take it to Ford im pretty sure they will put in Castrol 15w40, and i dont think they will want a customers engine blowing up. I reckon it would be fine.

 

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