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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:14 pm 
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If you posted the results then you'd have no arguements from anyone.

agreed

 

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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:30 pm 
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Where is the proof...

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:30 am 
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sometimes i read threads like this.. and think... "this has to be a pisstake"

some of the stuff being said by the one person is laughable and i just can't beleive he is being serious... i love threads like this... :)
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:35 pm 
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I reckon it will increase your fuel consumption.

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:03 pm 
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what if he is right?
dont get me wrong here coz i wouldn't know either way, ive still got a stock one!!!
just askin "what if?"
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:07 pm 
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it's been proven that it dosen't work as well.
this guy is saying it works better because he 'thinks' it goes better.
there is no proof of this.
if he had dyno results before and after, then MAYBE it would work.

why not just take off all your piping off the throttle body and run a stocking instead??

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:15 pm 
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why not just take off all your piping off the throttle body and run a stocking instead??


Don't tempt me! Ha. Why dont I try some flywire, or better yet, some course wire mesh and a hose clamp over my TB...!?! :D
Works for the ricers! Maybe they were planning a rebuild anyway...

A pod and a 3.5" pipe may or may not increase power, if you want to convice ppl then go 2 a dyno and show be4 and after dyno pulls... With the bonnet up and down. Just 4 interest sake, do a bonnet up and down run with an Exposed TB to see if the piping does acually rob the engine of power...

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:01 pm 
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bonnet down with no plumbing on the t/b will more than likely decrease due to the amount of heat in the engine bay.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:22 am 
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twr7cx wrote:
firstly, the overall flow capacity of a section of pipe is equal to the worst flowing part (a chain is only as strong as the weakest link type theory). So if you have 3" pipe in there, then the overall flow, regardless of if you have 3.5" at the begining, is only going to be as good as the 3" pipe.
Secondly, judging from your picture I'd say previously you were using the stock black plastic peice initially. That isn't 3", if you look at it it's tapered might be near 3" at the back, but at the front it's much smaller. And the rest of the factory piping often seems to change size a fair bit.
What was the point in this thread? you already know that most of us don't believe you and you've yet to give us any proof beyond your word for telling us that it's better...


What flows more? a 3" piece of pipe that is about 2.5" long (say the tb for example) or a 3" pipe going from the TB to the filter (about 20" long). the short piece of pipe will flow greater then the long piece. What does this have to do with anything you ask? It means that the worst flowing component (pre manifold) is the intake piping, not the tb.

In the SAE competition all cars are forced to run their induction systems the following way.

filter => Throttle Body => restrictor (approx 25mm) => turbo => inlet manifold => engine. Almost all of the gains made are at the restricor.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:52 am 
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WOW I've just read this and my name is mentioned, apparently I have this intake aren't I lucky someone must of snuck under my bonnet without me noticing and installed it. Thank You to whoever it was.
But unfortunatly the EF lives no longer. Cement truck + slippery mud + my car = roof touching door handles and bottom of doors touching mud.

But to be truthful I did have something similar
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:43 am 
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bigger tyres doesn't always mean better traction, and thus doesnt mean that it is harder to spin bigger tyres because there is less weight per unit of area on the ground

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:54 am 
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xcabbi wrote:
What flows more? a 3" piece of pipe that is about 2.5" long (say the tb for example) or a 3" pipe going from the TB to the filter (about 20" long). the short piece of pipe will flow greater then the long piece. What does this have to do with anything you ask? It means that the worst flowing component (pre manifold) is the intake piping, not the tb.


I'm pretty sure that the throttle body on these are fair bit smaller than 3". Secondly length of the pipe won't effect the flow, provided it's straight and all the same diameter and smooth. When there's bends and that they restrict flow.

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:49 am 
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clydetj wrote:
what if he is right?
dont get me wrong here coz i wouldn't know either way, ive still got a stock one!!!
just askin "what if?"

If he is right and shows proof then everyone will shut up!
He's only proof is a sales rep who is pissing in his pocket and telling him it's raining... and yes he believes it's raining.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:20 pm 
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Walker wrote:
clydetj wrote:
what if he is right?
dont get me wrong here coz i wouldn't know either way, ive still got a stock one!!!
just askin "what if?"

If he is right and shows proof then everyone will shut up!
He's only proof is a sales rep who is pissing in his pocket and telling him it's raining... and yes he believes it's raining.


so thats why that rain this morning smelt funny

 

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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:05 pm 
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twr7cx wrote:
xcabbi wrote:
What flows more? a 3" piece of pipe that is about 2.5" long (say the tb for example) or a 3" pipe going from the TB to the filter (about 20" long). the short piece of pipe will flow greater then the long piece. What does this have to do with anything you ask? It means that the worst flowing component (pre manifold) is the intake piping, not the tb.


I'm pretty sure that the throttle body on these are fair bit smaller than 3". Secondly length of the pipe won't effect the flow, provided it's straight and all the same diameter and smooth. When there's bends and that they restrict flow.


There is still a loss. Its just more pronounced with smaller diameters and longer passages. Haven't studied fluid mechanics yet so if anyone has then maybe they can shed some light onto this. How big are the throttle bodies on E series falcons bearing in mind that XF throttle bodies were 3" diameter.
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