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Last time i checked the P plate laws for NSW stated that any modifications requiring an engineer's certificate are illegal. Extractors are considered a minor modification and therefore do not require an engineers certificate. Thats what i gathered anyway. Its unfortunatly very blurry the way its written, so unless you go out of your way to piss a cop off you will be fine. Keep the heat sheild too, helps keep temps down and looks stock.
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normo1993 wrote: What are the chances of me getting Away with extractors on my p's ? Ive been driving with a full exhaust system and a stage 2 cam and head for about 5 months or so now, and haven't been pulled over or questioned once. It's all about the authority in your area
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uniacidz wrote: Any mods to improve engine performance or cars with 'performance mods' are not allowed to be driven if on P Plates. If car registered in your name or not, crash and insurance may not pay out due to modifications and you may have to pay all damages and personal injuries costings to the other persons involved. Thats the jist of it basically. I got my car fully covered, after telling them all the mods that were done to the car. They still insured it, knowing I was a under 25yo driver.
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BEAR80 wrote: tickford_6 wrote: BEAR80 wrote: tickford_6 wrote: tickford_6 wrote: Say good bye to your insurance if you crash it. normo1993 wrote: Whys that ? Because you are illegally driving the car. just curious, would it be same if the car was registered to a driver with a full licence??? why would it mater who the car is registered too? It maters who is driving it. WTF is wrong with all you people. WTF is wrong with you? is it wrong to ask advice on a forium????? I think NOT only asking a question as i have a friend in this situation....... so no need to be an a**hole as i am only asking for info so i can give them right advice..... I can't stand stupidity. There is a difference between asking for advice, and stupid. EVERYONE that posted above my first post in this thread is STUPID. Don't like it, stiff s**t. Report the post to a mod and see if i get banned. |
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REW93N wrote: uniacidz wrote: Any mods to improve engine performance or cars with 'performance mods' are not allowed to be driven if on P Plates. If car registered in your name or not, crash and insurance may not pay out due to modifications and you may have to pay all damages and personal injuries costings to the other persons involved. Thats the jist of it basically. I got my car fully covered, after telling them all the mods that were done to the car. They still insured it, knowing I was a under 25yo driver. They will still insure you, just won't payout when the time comes. A P plater can own and insure a BA XR6 Turbo, just can't drive in on the road. Nothing stops them from insuring you, they will be happy to take your money, they just won't payout when you have an accident. Same as the RMS will register the XR6 Turbo in your name, you just can't drive it. |
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There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud.
As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater.
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67RCE wrote: There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud. As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater. big brakes? dead set.... i dont think they make you go any faster.... sure they enhance performance but they do not make u go any quicker, if anything they should be an encouraged mod to make emergency stoping situtations safer IMO. i do not agree with you on that one.
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c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud. As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater. big brakes? dead set.... i dont think they make you go any faster.... sure they enhance performance but they do not make u go any quicker, if anything they are an encouraged mod to make emergency stoping situtations safer. i do not agree with you on that one. Big brakes require engineering. That in itself makes it illegal for a P Plater to drive.
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uniacidz wrote: Any mods to improve engine performance or cars with 'performance mods' are not allowed to be driven if on P Plates. If car registered in your name or not, crash and insurance may not pay out due to modifications and you may have to pay all damages and personal injuries costings to the other persons involved. Thats the jist of it basically. thanx for that, now i can give informed advice to a friend, whose car second car is modified with extractors and cat back exhaust and is regularly driven by his son who is on p plates..... |
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67RCE wrote: c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud. As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater. big brakes? dead set.... i dont think they make you go any faster.... sure they enhance performance but they do not make u go any quicker, if anything they are an encouraged mod to make emergency stoping situtations safer. i do not agree with you on that one. Big brakes require engineering. That in itself makes it illegal for a P Plater to drive. Alright your probably correct. i dont think many p platers would fit bigger brakes than standard size though. Many rules are just plain stupid and they should be uniform across aus. having different restrictions for p platers in one state to another just seems ridiculous.
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c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud. As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater. big brakes? dead set.... i dont think they make you go any faster.... sure they enhance performance but they do not make u go any quicker, if anything they are an encouraged mod to make emergency stoping situtations safer. i do not agree with you on that one. Big brakes require engineering. That in itself makes it illegal for a P Plater to drive. Alright your probably correct. i dont think many p platers would fit bigger brakes than standard size though. Many rules are just plain stupid and they should be uniform across aus. having different restrictions for p platers in one state to another just seems ridiculous. Why is that different, same here in NSW. |
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SWC wrote: c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud. As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater. big brakes? dead set.... i dont think they make you go any faster.... sure they enhance performance but they do not make u go any quicker, if anything they are an encouraged mod to make emergency stoping situtations safer. i do not agree with you on that one. Big brakes require engineering. That in itself makes it illegal for a P Plater to drive. Alright your probably correct. i dont think many p platers would fit bigger brakes than standard size though. Many rules are just plain stupid and they should be uniform across aus. having different restrictions for p platers in one state to another just seems ridiculous. Why is that different, same here in NSW. I wasn't meaning just "big brakes"..... There is a major variety of speed restrictions, performance restrictions and vehicle restrictions in every state across Australia. Why? Yes there is different state governments but we are all the same teenagers.... Hence my statement, this is a grey area as everything is so different, ridiculous.
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c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: c james wrote: 67RCE wrote: There is no grey area IMHO. The laws ban PERFORMANCE ENHANCING modifications. Extractors are a performance enhancing modifcation. A cat back you *may* get away with, providing it isn't retardedly loud. As it sits, my car is registered and insured in my name, yet on a rare occasion my brother drives it. I have told him to be extremely careful when he does, as Pacemakers + Exhaust + Big Brakes = illegal for a P Plater. big brakes? dead set.... i dont think they make you go any faster.... sure they enhance performance but they do not make u go any quicker, if anything they are an encouraged mod to make emergency stoping situtations safer. i do not agree with you on that one. Big brakes require engineering. That in itself makes it illegal for a P Plater to drive. Alright your probably correct. i dont think many p platers would fit bigger brakes than standard size though. Many rules are just plain stupid and they should be uniform across aus. having different restrictions for p platers in one state to another just seems ridiculous. I went from the stock 287mm single piston crap to 330mm twin piston stuff. Making the move to 330mm Four pot soon, little bit obvious to a cop that it isn't standard.
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c james wrote: I wasn't meaning just "big brakes"..... There is a major variety of speed restrictions, performance restrictions and vehicle restrictions in every state across Australia. Why? Yes there is different state governments but we are all the same teenagers.... Hence my statement, this is a grey area as everything is so different, ridiculous. It's not grey at all, You know what state you live and drive in, stick to those rules. All you need to do is think for your self. It ain't hard and it will get you further in live then an internet forum will. |
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tickford_6 wrote: c james wrote: I wasn't meaning just "big brakes"..... There is a major variety of speed restrictions, performance restrictions and vehicle restrictions in every state across Australia. Why? Yes there is different state governments but we are all the same teenagers.... Hence my statement, this is a grey area as everything is so different, ridiculous. It's not grey at all, You know what state you live and drive in, stick to those rules. All you need to do is think for your self. It ain't hard and it will get you further in live then an internet forum will. how about crossing states? wow, you are very opinionated. I gave my point. being told my someone else to think for myself is priceless but.
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