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 Post subject: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:23 pm 
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hi there guys first time on ,
have been offered a au xr6 engine { series 2 } ,will it fit in to my el , will it mount up to my gearbox { auto } ,what will i need if it will fit wiring loom computer etc .

thanks in advarnce ,
paul
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 Post subject: Re: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:35 pm 
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documents.php?d=85

Have a read. Also do a search its been done many many times.

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 Post subject: Re: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:44 pm 
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arent the ea eb ed engines different ,loking at the au xr6 engine it looks the same as my el ,sorry dont know much about these engines
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 Post subject: Re: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:59 pm 
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Things reqired to fit AU engine to EF/EL

1) sump needs to be modified to fit K-Frame, you can cut and weld the K-Frame but that is up to you, will need engineering after being cut. You cannot use an EF/EL sump as the sump is totally different to AU. ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/au-sump-mod-for-ef-el-t79648.html

2) Need to use AU/BF alternator or you will need to modify the block and drill and tap mount points to mount the EF/EL alternator.
If you use an AU I alternator you will need to change the plug for the alternator to one from an AUI as these are different from the Mitsubishi alternators.
Note: The AUII & III and BA alternators have the same plug as EF/EL.

3) Remove the block where the Dizzy (EL) or cam sensor (EF) goes and remove the gear from the shaft and fit to your Dizzy (EL) or Cam Sensor (EF). This will then mean that the gears are matching and you should have no issues, there have been issues with dizzys failing when this has not been done. Some modding will be requiered to use the existing mount point, extra notch/gring Cam sensor.
Note:Do not try and drill hole in existing EF position on AU block, you will drill through the block.

4) You will need to use a EF/EL thermostat housing as these have your temp sensor and AU housings do not.

5) You will need to use the EF/EL BBM as the uppers are different to the AU. Also us the EF/EL throttle body as some of the plugs are different to the AU.

6) Use the EF/EL wiring loom.

7) You will need to tap the block with an M12 1.5 tap if using the EF/EL Knock sensor. If using the AU sensor you will need to modify the plug.

8) a) You will need to cut the EF/EL AC pump mount spacers down to 30mm to suit the AU block as well as shortening the bolts by 10mmm if using the AU alternator to suit the standard serpentine belt.
b) If using the EF/EL alternator with modified mounts you will not need to cut down the mounts and be able to use the standard Serpentine belt.
c) Alternativly you can use the AU alternator , standard AC spacers and a Serpentine belt from an XH (Slightly longer).

9) Use the EF/EL power steering pump. This is a direct bolt up. The AU pump hose connection is different to the EF/EL.

10) You do not need to change the Harmonic balancer for either EL (Dizzy) or EF Coil Pack.

11) If fitting to EF you will need to use your original Coil Pack or an AUI coil pack as these are different to AUII & III. (different plug)

12) you can use the AU head or fit you EF/EL head, that is up to you.

Refer to these for further info

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/just-starting-au-in-ef-conversion-t81875.html?hilit=au%20motor%20conversion

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/dropping-a-naked-au-engine-into-an-el-t96815.html
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 Post subject: Re: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:10 pm 
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thanks for that ,the engine that am looking at is a complete engine with ac , power steer ,inlet , exhaust etc ,takin straight from car
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:17 pm 
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fordracer93 wrote:
thanks for that ,the engine that am looking at is a complete engine with ac , power steer ,inlet , exhaust etc ,takin straight from car


You don't need the following
1) AC Compressor, use your EL unit and follow the instructions in section 8.
2) The BBM, Upper on the AU BBM is different to the EF/EL, section 5 of instructions.
3) Power steering pump, Section 9.
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 Post subject: Re: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:21 pm 
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thanks for all that so the biggest part is modifing the sump .

cheers paul
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 Post subject: Re: fitting a au xr6 series 2 engine in a el
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:29 pm 
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Yep, follow the instructions in the sump mod guide and make sure you use someone who knows how to weld aluminium.
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