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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:13 pm 
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Gday guys i am having troubles with my el and would like some advice. my car has a major missing problem but it doesnt happen untill the car warms up to running temp and then it misses so bad you could mistake it for a wrx. i havew changed the plugs but was unable to change the leads by my self so that hasnt been dome yet but i think the problem is the head gasket. any help would be great thanks guys
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:19 pm 
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Go the leads before expecting the worst. Leads will break down under heat.
otherwise Most likely it has blown on no6. Rip the plug out an 6, disconnect the ignition (so it won't start) and crank it over. More than likely a squirt of water will come out. Another way to check is take it to a mech. Most of them have what my mech calls a "sniffer". It tests the coolant (I assume) for traces of carbon etc. Also look for bubbles in the rad over flow bottle.
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Don't fret man. My EB had a blown headgasket for 18 months before I fixed it and I drove it around 30 thousand ks like that!

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:20 pm 
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have you checked the engine oil? has it gone milky? i recently replaced my o2 sensor in my ef and that fixed my car which was missing. apart from that change ur leads if u can or get sum1 to do it and see how u go
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:25 pm 
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Just try replacing your leads.Also would try checking the inlet manifold bolts for tightness,try also spraying some water down along te inlet gasket area whilst engine is running to see if you inlet gasket is leaking.If you really suspect you have a blown or leaking head gasket i would advise to take it to a mechanic to determine whether which cylinder is got water in it or you have a different problem.Also another thing that can play up could be the memcal on the distributor heating up,just another hing to look at.

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:29 pm 
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i had the same prob when i changed ova my diff in the time it took for me to change the diff the leads died.

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:34 pm 
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When I had my EA, it was missing, I had the leads changed, and also, the distributor cap was cracked so I changed that. Fixed all the problems. This should be your first course of action as its relatively cheap compared to getting the head pulled off. Also, how many km's has the car done?

 

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:38 pm 
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yeh i will be taking it to a mechanics this week, the only reason i havent done my leads is becausei was told i need an engine crane to do it an it would cost an hours labour.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:47 pm 
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hahah u dont need a crane, just a couple of jacks to jack the front up and another person to pass u the leads to put on the dizzy!

heaps easier then pull half the intake apart imho

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 4:06 am 
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a crane, i wouldnt expect nothing less fmr mechanics in rocky mate, btw i am frm emerald

def change leads, spark plugs and give car a general service too

 

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:23 pm 
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Whoever said you need an engine crane is full of s**t mate. Take off your intake pipe and airbox, and you can squeeze your hand up there onto the dizzy cap. Take off and replace each lead one by one as not to get the order mixed up. It took me about and hour to do it and a lot of frustration but i got it done!

 

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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:06 pm 
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oh rito well then ill have to try that thanks just saved me like 80 bucks
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:43 pm 
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How did you go with this mate?

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:42 pm 
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If the misfiring is only occurring once it's warmed up then it's very likely to be the head gasket or a temperature-vacuum problem. Some easy stuff to check before changing the cap/leads:

~ Coolant loss and bubbles in the radiator
~ Motor oil (for milkiness indicating presence of water)
~ Spark plugs (to see if one is getting 'washed')
~ ECU fault codes
~ Selectively block off vacuum systems (starting with the EGR)

Does the misfiring go away at higher revs, eg. above 2500 RPM? If so then a blown head gasket or vacuum problem seems more likely than a spark problem.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Head Gasket???? Please Help
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:21 pm 
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Gday guys i am having troubles with my el and would like some advice. my car has a major missing problem but it doesnt happen untill the car warms up to running temp and then it misses so bad you could mistake it for a wrx. i havew changed the plugs but was unable to change the leads by my self so that hasnt been dome yet but i think the problem is the head gasket. any help would be great thanks guys


sounds like headgasket to me mate.

Its only missing when its at operating temp is becuase thats when the thermostat opens and allows coolent to flow through the block...and head :(

 

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