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 Post subject: HM Gem reco motors
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:33 pm 
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hey cars done a head gasket so im lookin at a recod motor, anyone heard anythin bout the hm ones? ive been quoted 1550 supplied which sounds pretty good. id also be puttin a wade 1636 in aswell :twisted:

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:34 pm 
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for what model car???

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:40 pm 
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EF Fairmont by the looks of things

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:58 pm 
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Personally I dont like HM gem motors. Get an engine builder to reco it.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:05 pm 
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I agree. Ive had a car with a HM engine and it was a lemon.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:08 pm 
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Dare I ask why your getting an entire reco motor because your head gasket blew? Why not just spend the $150.00 on a head gasket kit and fix it. Or a bit extra on a Valve Regridn Set (VRS) and get the valve seals done at the same time so you know she's all good.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:50 pm 
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yeah its for an ef fairmont, its done over 300000 kays and id rather have a nice new motor in it so i know i can mod it without it dying. I just thought the hm ones would be good and they come with a warranty.

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:57 pm 
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Ive heard a few bad thing about HM reco's Ie, non matching cyl's re-used parts, just slap together motors.

but then again, I had a L20 nissan motor that was just a HM 5star reco and this bloody motor was the best I've ever owned.. ended up with twin dcoe 45mm carbs, extractors and not even a cam change and the thing is still going! pulled very well, and the touque from a 4banger was unbelieveable!

and personally, I'd have no probs with reco from there... as long as its a nissan or a toyota motor.

I'd spend more $$$ to get the 4.0 refreshed along with a au head gasket!

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:08 pm 
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Have had dealings with Redlands engines and they were great to deal with..
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:53 pm 
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yeah its for an ef fairmont, its done over 300000 kays and id rather have a nice new motor in it so i know i can mod it without it dying. I just thought the hm ones would be good and they come with a warranty.


hmmmmm... the bottom end is reasonably simple and very durable. remove the head and you should be able to get some sort of idea on what it's like.
your better off taking the $1500 that you have, removing the head, buying AU metal headgasket (genuine from fraud spare parts for around $80.00ish), a VRS kit for the other gaskets. Taking the head in to have the bottom checked/flattened/shaved/whatever needs to be done, getting the new valve stem seals from the VRS kit fitted at the same time and some port and polish work. buying a regrind camshaft from Wade and the shims and fitting that too. At the end you'll have a full reco head that is going to perform a lot better than stock. your bottom end is most likely to be fine, unless there's something indicating otherwise.

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:41 am 
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i wouldnt get a hm gem motor. my mums xd had one and it got pulled back out pretty quick. it burnt a sump full of oil in 1000km and thats not the only case ove seen either
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:27 am 
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yeah from what i've seen in the past a hm reco seems to be a hm paintjob

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:55 pm 
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If i were you id keep clear of HM. I know of 2 people personally the had absolute lemons and believe me warranty doesnt mean jack to those wankers. They will always find a way out of it.

My mate went through 2 vn v6's in 4 months 1 replaced on warranty then he ended up just giving up cause they would only offer him another replacement.

He sole the car a bought an EB fairmont :)

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:00 pm 
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I used to work for a distrubutor of hm engines. We also used to reco our own. The standing joke was "hm engines are Hit and Miss: you might get a good one, you probably won't". We would probably have one a week returned for us to repair.
I wouldn't put a hm engine in my mother in laws commodore.

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:04 pm 
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1: any rebuilt engines warranty isnt worth s**t if you're gonna be modding it
2: why not spend a few more $$ on a decent rebuild with performance in mind?

 

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