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 Post subject: Is 300KW N/A at the fly possible?
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:52 pm 
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Is this possible out of the 4.0 OHC? Can it be done on a standard crank / rods but more compression, better pistons etc?

Individual throttle bodies, big 4 barrel even (aussie speed are doing a manifold for speedway classes)?

Which motor would be the best starting point?
What kind of revs will these things do if built right?

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 Post subject: Re: Is 300KW at the fly possible?
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:55 pm 
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Yes, its possible if Forced
Sure, you can make a NA i6 go like the clappers, but for how long? is it going to be street drivable?


Otherwise choose another motor.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:59 pm 
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im getting aproxx 270kw at the flywheel with boost on a stock head and bottom end..

n/a?? thats alot of work needed to get a n/a engine up to 300kw..
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:02 pm 
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Thanks. I should have put N/A in the title.
Yes its for a circuit car so wont be street driven much & I'm looking at putting it into an XE/F. Im not worried about ECU's etc at this stage but if the motor works out well I will go to throttle bodies and a stand alone system.
As long as it will run on PULP, stay together when taken to 6500rpm, I will be very happy.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:02 pm 
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Blunny wrote:
Thanks. I should have put N/A in the title.
Yes its for a circuit car so wont be street driven much & I'm looking at putting it into an XE/F. Im not worried about ECU's etc at this stage but if the motor works out well I will go to throttle bodies and a stand alone system.
As long as it will run on PULP, stay together when taken to 6500rpm, I will be very happy.



you'll never make that much power on pump fuel, let alone only using 6500 to do it.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:11 pm 
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Your going to need alot of work to get 300kw out of the NA OHC I6, it would cost a lot of money as well. 300kw at the engine is around 220-225rwkw and i think the highest NA I6 is around 200-210rwkw from what I have heard. (the bloke is from queensland)

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:11 pm 
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the only way to get that power from a sohc i6 is with more money than you can poke a stick at or with forced induction.
the highest power I've herd of was 212rwkw running on meth.
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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:14 pm 
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without spending ridiculous amounts of money your looking at about 150-170rwkw..

you can build the bottom end, that will strengthen it up with a small gain by being able to rev a little higher,


call a few cam companies and ask them what the biggest cam they can possibly make for you, your very limited in finding a cam that can exceed that power in na form

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:16 pm 
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I dont think it would really matter what motor you started with, as practically everything would be custom/forged... crank, rods, pistons, springs, valves, rocker gear, and everything in between.... and on PULP :|

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:18 pm 
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on the other hand i think the Barra DOHC would be able to crack the 300kw at the engine NA, but I don't think there has been as much work put in them as yet.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:19 pm 
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call a few cam companies and ask them what the biggest cam they can possibly make for you, your very limited in finding a cam that can exceed that power in na form

http://www.camtechcams.com.au/ford_6cyl_eael.html
http://www.camtechcams.com.au/ford_6cyl_elau.html

I think these are the biggest listed cams for E/A series motors. Of course you can get a custom grind, but the 843 is massive...

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:33 pm 
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on the other hand i think the Barra DOHC would be able to crack the 300kw at the engine NA, but I don't think there has been as much work put in them as yet.


I think the Barra DOHC has far more potential than the i6, but in saying that 300 is a big number. i think you might get 275 with custom cams, tune, full head rework, pistons, and maybe some serious induction work. but we're talking mega$

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:48 pm 
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I'd love to see a head flow comparison between a stock barra head and an E series head as the results could lead me to having a fire sale.

Atomic do motors that can be revved up to 7800rpm but expect to pay s**t money for them. You've got 2 options.

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Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:57 pm 
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would need cooling like a mofo tho woudlent it?

what u think of its torque and 1/4 if such a thing low 13 mabye???

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:10 am 
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Yeah, it can be achieve with a concealed 400hp direct port N2O kit, and you'll probably have a couple of shots with that amount of dose if you're lucky :lol:

Are you sure you don't mean 300bhp?

 

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