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 Post subject: is this aux shaft failure? please help asap
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:54 pm 
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Hi everyone ive been chasing a jerkiness motion in my ED on this thread

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ive also been reading other peoples threads and have come to the conclusion that its possibly my aux shaft and/or dissy. my car still has a genuine ford dissy in it (who knows could of been 2nd hand at some stage)

ive pulled the dissy out and taken photos of it and the aux shaft, there are no teeth missing but the if definatly some marking on the aux shaft.

ive put up pictures sorry if there a bit crummy, the dog thinks it may be the aux shaft.

im going to try and make a decision about it this weekend do I keep spending money on this car or bite the bullet part it out and get something newer and more reliable

thanks everyone

 

 

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:14 pm 
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1st off i will say i'm NOT an expert on this problem :roll:


'markings' are normal .... it's when it becomes "wear" that there is a problem. is there 'slop' when turning the dizzie by hand? [there is always 'some' play]




anyway ..... some of our local experts WILL hopefully catchup & confirm OR shoot me down :roll:
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:50 pm 
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there is a bit of slop when turning by hand but really it seems minimal.

the thing that really made me think it is with the timing light on it, warm a/c off and hold the revs at a steady 2000rpm it moves advanced and retarded about 10degrees its really erratic

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:45 am 
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:19 am 
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In relation to the stumble? Or in general?

Stumble-
Spark plugs
Map sensor hose
Had a j3 made to suit the mods

In general-
Crow stage 2 billet cam
Pacemaker extractors 4499
100 cell bullet cat
2.5 mandrel bent exhaust
T5 conversion.new clutch and cable etc
ebay short shifter
Hurst gear stick
kn panel filter
Xh snorkel
3.27 lsd.
king spring superlows
New upper and lower ball joints
New wheel bearings
Rda slotted and dimpled front rotors
Bendix ultimate front pads
Superpro front camber kit
New nolathane replacement upper trailing arm
Steering wheel and boss kit
El ecu
Ti performance j3 chip
New a.c compressor
New receiver dryer
A.c regas with r134a
New nolathane wats link bushes
More stuff i sure im not remembering

Basically its just been a giant money pit ive spent thousands on and id still be lucky to get $2k if i sold it tomorrow. The money i spent in the last 12 months i should of just put into the house or paid off a new car grrrrrr dam you ed! I tried to take care of you and this is how you show your apprecation

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 9:21 am 
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$600 worth of dunlop tyres
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:23 am 
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Checked for vacuum leaks ???

 

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:42 am 
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Yep strayed a can of carby cleaner around checking.
I did an intake gasket about 6 months ago and did the map sensor hose a couple of weeks ago.
I cant hear any hissing.
Could it be a shagged map sensor?

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:13 pm 
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looks good to me, have you replaced the ISC?

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:02 pm 
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Nah havnt replaced isc. Ive given it a good clean out and blow out with air.

I bought a map sensor at the local wrecker for $10 at first i thought it fixed it.but i waited a day just in case it was the placebo effect . Unfortunately it still does it.

I think im gona use the xmas break to put the auto back in. I could never feel it with the auto but now with the direct drive of the manual it annoys me so much i cant stand it.

The money i spent on the manual conversion. Buying a new clutch. Cable.bushes etc etc etc i could of had my auto rebuild.it makes me a bit sick when i think of the waste of money.o well.another one of lifes lessons.

Anyone want to buy a t5 conversion. Clutch n cable have done less than 3000km since new.

I know there is an issue with the engine and i dont want to band aid it with the auto i just want it fixed.

Ive spent so much money on the ed i need to keep it or im flushing hundreds if not thousand down the toilet.

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:17 pm 
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My ED does the jerky thing when idling through a car park...I just push the clutch in, blip the throttle, and it settles and all is good.

 

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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:40 pm 
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Yeah ok.in a way its good to hear. Maybe its just a e series manual trait.

I love the acceleration off the mark with the t5 but i think im going the auto again.

Thanks for the info everyone its much appreciated

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:00 pm 
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My EA manual doesn't jerk at all.

A couple of comments:
- no, 10 degrees variation in timing is not normal however make sure you are doing it per manual procedures and car is in correct mode (then you know it's base timing only)
- jerkiness can also be caused by clutch springs and plate wear
- yes its a money pit but do it once it's done! I did more on my EA now it's a bloody good car.

I'd also suggest putting car into diagnostic mode and check for codes. The time I had jerky driveability etc it was reported by EEC4 as HEGO (O2) sensor and it was 100% right. New part car was like a new one.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:16 am 
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Its all good. Ive put another auto in it.it drives well a bit slow off the mark but goes good once noving.

Its soon to be for sale anyway.im just gona get a kq laser again.i had one for a couple of years and never had to put a spanner on it.

Thanks anyways

 

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