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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:57 pm 
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Im after a cam for my el i want it to have a noticable lumpy idol not way over the top though i just dont know what cam has a nice lump to it?? i was told the wade 977b was lumpy so i got one and tried it out but wasnt lumpy enough. its auto 6cyl with a brand new head. im going to get a stall converter for it, what would be the best rpm to stall at for a lumpy cam 2500? and also head mods im guessing valve springs as its just a gli..

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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:00 pm 
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valve springs are a must.

you want lump and lots of it, find something with about 580 thou lift and a 114 LSA,
Your gonna want a 2800 stallie then as well. You want the proper lumpy idle, you need a cam in the valley and 2 more cylinders.

 

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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:04 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw7by7goCqQ

This is a CMS stage 3 cam, my current exhaust makes the idle sound rattly but you can definitely hear the lumpiness.

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:02 am 
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Haha yeah nothin beats the sound of a camed up v8.
I reckon I'm gunna go with the cms3. Nice rims same as what's on my el.
What valve springs you recommend to go with the cms3 and also where to buy them off the net or something? Also can I just buy a stall converter off eBay to suit ef to au trans or is that a bad idea?
Finally one more question can someone fill me in on this vernia gear do I need it with this cam and what's it do.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:27 am 
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Lumpy idle comes from cams with an LSA of 110* to 112*......108* is over the top for street.
A change of diff gears will be needed too.....3.45's, 3.7's, and lower

 

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Allows you to advance or retard the cam timing.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:14 pm 
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Cheers SWC will I have to grab one with the cms3 cam?
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ahow6235 wrote:
Cheers SWC will I have to grab one with the cms3 cam?


http://www.cmssydney.com.au/

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:44 pm 
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ahow6235 wrote:
Cheers SWC will I have to grab one with the cms3 cam?


Yes, you will need one. Contact Joe at CMS and talk it over.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:50 pm 
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ahow6235 wrote:
Cheers SWC will I have to grab one with the cms3 cam?

i just put a cms 3 into my el on sunday, it's not a nice lope at idle, the wade 1673 in my brothers ef also has a good lope

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:50 pm 
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my stage 3 cam untuned is very lopey, thats why when I sell it I always recommend a custom tune ..... we did an AU VCT again with my stage 3 VCT spec cam & made 166rwkw with 460 nm of torque, usall mod were pacy comps 2.25'' exhaust stock air box, BA throlte body pipe & tuned with SCT..

All of my cams work & there being out the for years with minor mods & a good tune we've made some fast E series in the past..

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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:25 pm 
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AUXR8 2 wrote:
my stage 3 cam untuned is very lopey, thats why when I sell it I always recommend a custom tune ..... we did an AU VCT again with my stage 3 VCT spec cam & made 166rwkw with 460 nm of torque, usall mod were pacy comps 2.25'' exhaust stock air box, BA throlte body pipe & tuned with SCT..

All of my cams work & there being out the for years with minor mods & a good tune we've made some fast E series in the past..

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my el can keep up to a fg now 8-)

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:35 pm 
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mitchell g wrote:
AUXR8 2 wrote:
my stage 3 cam untuned is very lopey, thats why when I sell it I always recommend a custom tune ..... we did an AU VCT again with my stage 3 VCT spec cam & made 166rwkw with 460 nm of torque, usall mod were pacy comps 2.25'' exhaust stock air box, BA throlte body pipe & tuned with SCT..

All of my cams work & there being out the for years with minor mods & a good tune we've made some fast E series in the past..

cheers
Joe

my el can keep up to a fg now 8-)


another quick Eseries...... :wink: mind you that the FG's do weigh around another 200+kg

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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:36 pm 
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AUXR8 2 wrote:
mitchell g wrote:
AUXR8 2 wrote:
my stage 3 cam untuned is very lopey, thats why when I sell it I always recommend a custom tune ..... we did an AU VCT again with my stage 3 VCT spec cam & made 166rwkw with 460 nm of torque, usall mod were pacy comps 2.25'' exhaust stock air box, BA throlte body pipe & tuned with SCT..

All of my cams work & there being out the for years with minor mods & a good tune we've made some fast E series in the past..

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Joe

my el can keep up to a fg now 8-)


another quick Eseries...... :wink: mind you that the FG's do weigh around another 200+kg

cheers
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well i figured i was doin pretty well for not being tuned haha he's scared now i've got it tuned

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:43 pm 
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get it dynoed & post up some results...
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