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 Post subject: power vs cash na i6
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:20 pm 
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what sort of power can you get for any sort of cash.

im talking from the bloke with $1000 limit to the bloke with no limit. keeping the car na and on gas what sort of cash and where can it be spent?

im starting with a 170000km el xr6 motor so whats the best way to go.

im just ideas and a ruff idea on prices. im hoping to have 160 170+ rwkw but depends on cast and how it will be to drive.

 

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 Post subject: Re: power vs cash na i6
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:30 pm 
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i think you might get the 160rwkw n/a on petrol with about 2-2.5g spent..
1 g might get you around the 140rwkw mark..

then again it being on lpg is a hard call without going lpg injection..?...

as said in a few threads lately.. power cost money... the more power you want, the more it will cost!!!

if you havnt noticed there are a few similar threads floating around.
off-topic-f6/theoretical-question-most-powerful-motor-on-a-budget-t87492.html

ford-4l-and-6-cylinder-f1/how-does-one-get-220rwkw-without-turboing-or-supercharging-t87577.html
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 Post subject: Re: power vs cash na i6
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:48 pm 
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ausedwagon wrote:
what sort of power can you get for any sort of cash.

im talking from the bloke with $1000 limit to the bloke with no limit. keeping the car na and on gas what sort of cash and where can it be spent?

im starting with a 170000km el xr6 motor so whats the best way to go.

im just ideas and a ruff idea on prices. im hoping to have 160 170+ rwkw but depends on cast and how it will be to drive.



$1000 spent on an XR engine with a manual box will get you around the 130 to 140rwkw mark.
PROVIDED the engine is in good condition.

with no limit ( and buy that i mean you must have at least 50k to waste on an engine) you end up with with more power then any one has ever built before.

 

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 Post subject: Re: power vs cash na i6
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:08 pm 
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get a manual conversion, ok so no more power but it wakes the car up and makes it a hell of a lot more fun to drive. down the track do some difff gears or some head work. manual conversion is what I would do, providing its an auto ATM,

If its already a manual, then i would do diff gears, a set of 3.7's would be my personal choice.

 

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Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:09 pm 
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Hmmm.

It depends on what you define as engine mods.

If you include intake and exhaust in that definition then the dollars do add up quickly.

On my Wagon I have done the following mods using a Std Complete EL Engine.

Pacemaker Extractors and Highflow Cat - Second Hand - $240
Redback 2.5" Exhaust - $330
EF Airbox lid intake Trumpet and outlet $20
3" 300mm Alloy Pipe $35
AU intake pipe to throttle body -$15 at wreckers
EL Ghia Tickford ECU - Swapped for parts
Tickford Fuel Pressure Reg - $10 off forums
Wade 1673 Cam - Second Hand - $100

Thats $750.

I would have between 130 and 140rwks, and if you have any of those parts already like I did, then it is even cheaper again.

I do have a Tickford head to be recoed and decked. This will be shaved a fair bit to take advantage of the LPG, but will still need to run on 98ron petrol. The will be between $200 and $400 dollars there depending on needs to be done.

For a street engine in a daily driver, I draw the line at touching the bottom end when working on a budget, especially when an AU engine can be had for so little $$$$.

You can easily blow $1000 having head work done, if you need new valve springs and port and polish etc, and while I would not do it as I don't see the value for money there, if you do go right ahead.

For a $3000 dollar budget I would be investing in a Barra Conversion, but that is a personal preference.

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 Post subject: Re: power vs cash na i6
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:57 am 
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problem with the barra engine ben is that you will need engineering for the conversion, even though it's a 4.0L?

A $1000 would get you a good exhaust system and maybe headers! i would do exhaust,headers,cam and maybe head work and you should be on 140-150rwkw with alittle timing.
Fast XR had exhaust, header's , CMS 3 cam, slight head work and bigger valves and stronger springs with 14dg timing made 154rwkw on cms dyno and ran 14.1 quater mile. on standered 3.45 diff's..

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:07 am 
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ok. i have a manual and exhaust and headers. im talking only on the motor just head work and a cam and j3 chip ect.

what sort of difficulty will i have with the gas? its an ohc system and gas injection its too much.

 

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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:15 pm 
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ausedwagon wrote:
ok. i have a manual and exhaust and headers. im talking only on the motor just head work and a cam and j3 chip ect.

what sort of difficulty will i have with the gas? its an ohc system and gas injection its too much.


It is not that much any more.

Gas Injection Kit - Ebay

However, I have been advised this kit will support up around the 160rwkw mark.


When we meet up this weekend, we can have a chat then about options.

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