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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:27 pm 
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OK, ok,ok....a mate of mine races speedway...had a xflow that did 8,000rpm....regularly.....and on methanol too.....never blew it up.......they have the same bottom end as EA to EL...stroke wise that is.
Now, he has been putting together a SOHC donk....may see same revs.....have to wait and see on that one.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:19 pm 
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if you think the i6 needs to rev to make big power, your on the wrong forum!

Really? So revs will not assist in making more power when you currently still have a rising power graph at rev limiter? This post reaks of FAIL!!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:24 am 
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67RCE wrote:
Troy wrote:
if you think the i6 needs to rev to make big power, your on the wrong forum!

Really? So revs will not assist in making more power when you currently still have a rising power graph at rev limiter? This post reaks of FAIL!!!


I recon. You are one of the only people here helping me keep sane...
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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:33 am 
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seriously mate, stop being a tosser



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Oh boy, definite magazine mechanic material.


Yes i was quoting a guy from one of this forums Sponsors, Snort performance. From a 2004 edition of Street Machine Ford edition #5. In an article about turbo charging thios engine. I think he knows more than you maybe?

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Of course a 2jz has twin cams. Are you trying to make it sound like it got converted to twin cams.


No i was trying to point out this is a sweet head designed by yamaha then has had thousands of dollars spent on it to go even harder.

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Of course a 2jz has twin cams. Are you trying to make it sound like it got converted to twin cams.


Confuscious (old asian dead guy) once said. The first step on the path of something something is to say "I don;'t know". I have only had this car for 2 weeks so i am still learning as i go along. But i have been building cars for over half my life now. And some of them fords. 351 might ring a bell for you. Guess what? motors react well to machining, why not this one?

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as for knowing what im talking about seems i know a litle more than most of you in some areas no? HAHAHA!



As for all this ford vs holden corperate bulls&*^ i have no time for that crap. A cars a car and they both have pros and cons.
SPeaking of which. how many bolts do the main caps have, just 2? guess no one in .AU does better caps, how about in the USA?
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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:50 am 
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If you want to give advice here you have to be very specific



I was being specific as far as i can be mr. With my experience with modding engines this is the way to do it. Toyota, nissan, ford, holden all types. Yes things jump in the way of making engines strong but we overcome them by keeping our chin up and our diplomacy polished, as only together without acting like retards can we acheive to find out how to make this b**ch rev and last long, document it, and monitor its progress, then we can make it a sticky so we dont have to go through all this again. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:38 am 
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I had a little Yamaha motorbike rev past 20,000rpm, but the little Honda was better for rev's. It hit 24,000 and there was still a little bit of power there even.

Maybe I could chop about nine tenths off the EL I6 block, put in a crank from a sewing machine, put four pistons into what is left of bore #1 and weld a plate over the back.

I'd then obviously need a plenum and will fit an electric fan forced induction system.


Damn. I had a good message there until I mention electric forced induction.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:19 am 
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If you want to give advice here you have to be very specific

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Oh and it helps if you know what you are talking about


I will race you any day and time :)

Do you want to see pictures of our cars?



And there it is, the statement that seperates holden people from ford people.
In case you can't work it out. that sort of attitude is why I told you to stop being a tosser.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:53 am 
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I will race you any day and time :)

Do you want to see pictures of our cars?


Too bad the mods can't moderate stupidity...

 

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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:39 am 
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And there it is, the statement that seperates holden people from ford people.
In case you can't work it out. that sort of attitude is why I told you to stop being a tosser.[/


Well if you think you can beat me with a car that only revs 5000RPM name your car and race track and we will do it legally. No need racing on the street as your ford god d**k johnson said "Its a road, not a race track!"

Call me a tosser again and i will seek legal action from you being defamitory mate!
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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:40 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:50 am 
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I really think a lot of you people are very rude! I think i should tell you (reluctantly) that i have Aspergers syndrome. A lot of social nuances are totally lost to me. I don't take s**t from anyone. And if i get any more defamitory treatment i will take legal action.

I have been racing and modding cars for a long time as well as my firends who one at the age of 15 was .Au sprint car champ and now wins HP Shoot outs, leases 3 full sise works hsops to house his and his brothers cars and even has his own dyno.
And here you are trying to tell me I am a tosser becasue i know fast cars rev more than 5000RPM and what to do generally to make engines rev and make ussable power. Even quote your forums sponsors own words on how to do things, and you think i am spinning crap? Saying 12 PSI is high boost (my but it is) Fords don't have too high compression to run high boost? (my but they dont) here in people who sell you your over priced kits own words and advice.

Yes the l6 can rev. Yours might not but thats probably why your cars so slow. Speaking of which, anyones cars in the 9s yet?

If you look at ppl who have fast cars. Do they not rev to 10 000 RPM, have a 2 speed power glide, a 5000RPM stall converter and 4.11/1 diff ratios? Or do they have 5000RPM, a smooth shifting massarti throw away with a 1000RPM stall converter and tall highway (i'm a cheap bastard that wont spend money on fuel and probably never buys premium in the first place). 3.08/1 diff gears?
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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:52 am 
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Mate, just drop it.
You're making yourself out to be an idiot and lowering the standard of this entire forum.
We aren't defamating you! You are!!

 

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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:15 pm 
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ashbrisau wrote:
Yes the l6 can rev. Yours might not but thats probably why your cars so slow. Speaking of which, anyones cars in the 9s yet?


Yes, and it's not done with extra revs.


Face it, the I6's will take a lot of work and expense to get 7500 revs reliably from them, for little benefit (you only want 160rwkw?*). To make them go, cram some boost in. Cheaper, easier, more reliable.

I fail to see your obsession with high revs and applying ideas that may work for a old 308 to an entirely different motor. Also ignoring the advice from others here, with experience with the motor in question.


*PS: this is attainable without extra revs; a cam, head work, intake, extractors/exhaust will get you there.

 

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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Question Time about REV RANGE's. 7500RPM and 160 RWKW?
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ashbrisau wrote:
Yes the l6 can rev. Yours might not but thats probably why your cars so slow. Speaking of which, anyones cars in the 9s yet?


Hi Boost runs 9s

 

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