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 Post subject: Short or Long Extractors which is better ?
Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:24 am 
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I have got a complete lukey system on my el 6cyl. falcon even extractors which are short (2-3-1). When i installed them i noticed a huge differance (very happy). A week ago my brother got & installed a JJM race series complete system. The exctactors are very long (3-2-1) finishing under drivers seat but the system is very quiet but mine sounds like a v8 at idle.
Just wandering what is the differance & why between the 2 extractor set ups ? :?

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:42 am 
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from memory, and there are plenty of threads about this.

short for more low down torque but no real gain up top
and vice versa..

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:23 am 
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Yeah, there are a billion posts about this, man. I got the same treatment when I first posted about it.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:12 am 
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longer pipes will tent to produce more power at low and meduim RPM

shorter pipes tend to produce more power at MID to HIGH rpm

you also need to concider pipe size and arrangment aswell
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:23 pm 
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Sorry about that guys i haven't seen any post about this topic i'm a newy at this although i have been a revhead all my life. THANK YOU.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:35 pm 
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Don't apologise, it's a fair question,
Tickford_6 got it right from SgtBourne by a nose. Without going into tuned length pipes, you've got the headers designed to give more grunt [with some top end improvement], and your brother's are designed for high revving, with maybe some bottom end improvement. One for torque and one for horsepower [dyno days].
As we used to say in the old days, one for go and one for show [in a street car].
You and your brother can now argue which one's which.
Oh, BTW, I've ordered a set of shorter pipes for my EB2 and I'm not biased...I swear. LARL
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:43 am 
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Red ones go faster.

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 1:11 am 
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Does "Cherry Red" count? coz I don't want to go too fast.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:25 am 
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The main thing you've all forgotten is at least your system is legal... I very much doubt those race series extractors are legal.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:02 am 
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"Cherry red"? Dont you mean "Dog d**k Red"
I got told this from a Ford dealer, so im sure its correct ;)

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:11 pm 
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From a Ford Dealer, now there's an infallible source.
I'd rather see a vet., about the colour of any dogs parts and about my car.
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:07 pm 
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No no, Candy apple red's the fastest.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Short or Long Extractors which is better ?
Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:32 pm 
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racer wrote:
but mine sounds like a v8 at idle.

This cracks me up every time. :)
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:25 pm 
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My gf's dad's Hyundai Excel rumbles like a V8 too, it didnt even need modding, the entire exhaust rusted itself off right from the engine :P

That and every other sensor in the engine has gotten blocked up, fried or water logged in such a way that it works now, but the slightest change of wind ... like Mr Burns "Invincible ey?"

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:24 pm 
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When i pulled one of the plug leads of my old xe 250 it sounded lumpy like a v8 too. ha, ha

 

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