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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:14 pm 
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Heya guys n girls,

I raced my mates VS last nite and couldnt help but notice that my car got absoluting creamed off the line, now i know that the vs is pretty quick but this was rediculous. I was wondering if anyone had any input on y my car is so crap off the line - if we are rolling then i can just beat his VS.

Now ill tell ya bout my car:

Bog stock EL ex taxi with f**k loads of K's - i figure the engine is tired but was wondering if anyone with EL's with lower k's can keep up with VS's.

He has a standard VS series 2, with a cat back exhaust and cold air intake - thats about it.

Oh and we are also both shift kitted. however getting to about 100+ km/h my car starts to creep away from his - given we are rolling. wondering if anyone can help me with my prob.

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:20 pm 
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for starters falcons have a eternal 1st gear so you will probably never beat a commo of the line, secondly the motor will be tired from doing that many kilometres. an EL should s**t over a VS once both cars are over 80km/h.

and i assume this "race" was on private land? ;)

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:33 pm 
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click.

fordmods has just reached 1,300,456 posts about i6 falcons VS v6 commys.

lets have an all round pat on the back for this sterling effort. :roll:

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:37 pm 
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Yeah, those Commys have short first gears, that gives them a bit of time to shine, until the Falcon grabs second, and leaves it in it's dust.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:04 pm 
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Yeah, those Commys have short first gears, that gives them a bit of time to shine, until the Falcon grabs second, and leaves it in it's dust.

i take it you've picked this up while you've been cruising arround

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:11 pm 
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theres your problem

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:24 pm 
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exactly wat fordzatmyplace said lol

 

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:46 pm 
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Mitch_ wrote:
andrewts wrote:
Yeah, those Commys have short first gears, that gives them a bit of time to shine, until the Falcon grabs second, and leaves it in it's dust.

i take it you've picked this up while you've been cruising arround

I sure did. Cruising the forums! Should be thanking me, I use the search feature. This is like the 50th thread on this, so there are plenty of results...
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:24 am 
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yeah private land lol :roll: if by private land u mean benara road?? lol
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:42 am 
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:13 am 
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in that case it was "near" benara road... on his private land
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:15 am 
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:31 am 
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engine torque * gearbox gearing * diff gearing - driveline losses = torque at wheels.

In short, the commodore is getting more torque to the wheels while it's using the significantly shorter first gear. Combine that with less mass to make move and it's a no-brainer. Once the gearing starts to level out more (2nd/3rd/4th gears), engine torque is more relevant and that is where the 4.0 shines against the 3.8

A manual falcon's 1st gear is similar to the 1st in an auto/manual commodore, subsequently the engine is pretty much the deciding factor (ignoring driver ability) and that's a good thing for us :)

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:41 am 
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your engine and gearbox are tired, if your car had LSD, then its most probably worn.

i can guarentee that..

btw, have they resurfaced Benara Rd yet?
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:34 pm 
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yeah its quite the smooth piece of a**....phalt
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