Fordmods Logo

. 

 

Page 3 of 6 [ 84 posts ] Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

 
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:30 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Age: 34

Posts: 756

Joined: 21st Nov 2005

Gallery: 25 images

Ride: 1999 AU futura

Location: griffith
NSW, Australia

Yes, i would have to say it would help with an increase in power-but how much, i do not know...

Having more projection of the plug will create a better igniter in the combustion chamber where as the shorter protrusion will definently need a strong spark to keep up with the plug with a longer protusion.

But if you want to put it into practise i would be very interested to see how it does make a difference in rwkw.Meaning if you can get onto a dyno and use your standard ef.el plug protrusion type plug and then switch to the earlier xf to ed plug and see what benefit will come from doing this.

The only thing i see happening is making sure that you have suffcient plug to piston clearance and also running a different heat range plug to compensate the extra heat being produced in the combustion chamber (only really for high performance applications/would be fine for everyday streeter).

 

_________________

COMING SOON,XD WITH A TURBO...CLEVO STYLE

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:37 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Quote:
The only thing i see happening is making sure that you have suffcient plug to piston clearance and also running a different heat range plug to compensate the extra heat being produced in the combustion chamber (only really for high performance applications/would be fine for everyday streeter).



well the photos at the start of the thread take care of knowing what the clearence is like. (kind of half the reasong the photos are there)

there will not be enough change, if any, to warrant a colder plug.


like has been said earlier, sustained high rpm use (hill climbs/ sprint racing/ circuit racing) will not suit the long projection plugs. Nor will the use nitrous oxide.

but strip use and daily driving will be fine.

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:44 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 49

Posts: 6467

Joined: 18th Dec 2006

Ride: 93 ED sedan

Power: 161 rwkw

Location: Rockhampton
QLD, Australia

tickford_6 wrote:
.


I think I see a dot....?????????? whats it mean ?????? LOL

 

_________________

http://youtu.be/jJTh9F3Vgg0

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:45 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

cjh wrote:
tickford_6 wrote:
.


I think I see a dot....?????????? whats it mean ?????? LOL


changed my mind

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:47 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 49

Posts: 6467

Joined: 18th Dec 2006

Ride: 93 ED sedan

Power: 161 rwkw

Location: Rockhampton
QLD, Australia

tickford_6 wrote:
cjh wrote:
tickford_6 wrote:
.


I think I see a dot....?????????? whats it mean ?????? LOL


changed my mind


LOL

 

_________________

http://youtu.be/jJTh9F3Vgg0

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:09 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 887

Joined: 8th Aug 2006

Ride: Falcon

Location: Central Highlands
QLD, Australia

NGK Equivalent Part ZFR4F-11/ZF4A-11

Bosch Equivalent Part FR9HC+

The bosch plugs are used in 4l Jeeps, so they have them down at supercheap auto.

Image

 

_________________

97 EL Fairmont 4l OHC .Silver.
Exhaust: Pacemaker's, 2.5" exhaust and Hiflow cat
Intake: FRAM AIRHOG , EL GT snorkel
XR6 300kpa fuel reg Stg 2 Auto Shift Kit.6DJA ECU
PM in Qld looking too buy Toyota 4*4 SR5 Dualcab Hilux 91-97 with 2.8l diesel engine/5spd manual

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:30 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 1140

Joined: 27th Feb 2005

Ride: Supercharged EF Fairmont

Location: T.I. Performance HQ
VIC, Australia

im a bit confused!

I thought the ZGR6B-11 plug had more projection than the standard BRP5EY??

anyone got a pic of them side by side?

or are we saying that Autolite/Denso the only way to go for the long projection plug?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:50 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Posts: 887

Joined: 8th Aug 2006

Ride: Falcon

Location: Central Highlands
QLD, Australia

galapogos01 wrote:
im a bit confused!

I thought the ZGR6B-11 plug had more projection than the standard BRP5EY??

anyone got a pic of them side by side?

or are we saying that Autolite/Denso the only way to go for the long projection plug?


It does, it is the same length as the standard NGK BRE527Y EA/ED plug.

BRP5EY is shorter projection EF/EL plugs.

Have another look at the pic i posted a few posts back!

Next service I will put in a set of NGK BRE527Y plugs and see if there is some truth behind using longer projected plugs into EF/EL heads.

 

_________________

97 EL Fairmont 4l OHC .Silver.
Exhaust: Pacemaker's, 2.5" exhaust and Hiflow cat
Intake: FRAM AIRHOG , EL GT snorkel
XR6 300kpa fuel reg Stg 2 Auto Shift Kit.6DJA ECU
PM in Qld looking too buy Toyota 4*4 SR5 Dualcab Hilux 91-97 with 2.8l diesel engine/5spd manual

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:53 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6166

Joined: 8th May 2007

are the ED plugs gapped the same as the EF ones out of the box?
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:34 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

EL__Fairmont wrote:
galapogos01 wrote:
im a bit confused!

I thought the ZGR6B-11 plug had more projection than the standard BRP5EY??

anyone got a pic of them side by side?

or are we saying that Autolite/Denso the only way to go for the long projection plug?


It does, it is the same length as the standard NGK BRE527Y EA/ED plug.

BRP5EY is shorter projection EF/EL plugs.

Have another look at the pic i posted a few posts back!

Next service I will put in a set of NGK BRE527Y plugs and see if there is some truth behind using longer projected plugs into EF/EL heads.



i doubt you will feel any power increase.

you'd be better off doing some long term fuel economy testing, say a month of regular driving on the both types.
reason being is anything that can create more power with out added air and fuel must show some sort of economy gain.

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:49 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

ebxr82nv wrote:
mystro wrote:
quick google of autolite
you can buy app63's from rarespares
all 6 for $97 posted


Bloody hell, I don't even think mock charges that much for them.


that part number is for double platinum.

mocks sells all three types but advertises the regular plugs

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:16 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 534

Joined: 14th Oct 2007

Gallery: 8 images

Location: newcastle
NSW, Australia

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that is a fair price for a top of the line set of plugs plus includes delivery.
search how much for the best bosch,splitfire,msd etc
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:00 am 
Oompa Loompa
Offline

Posts: 38

Joined: 23rd Jan 2008

Location: bris
QLD, Australia

I think I will stick with my denso K20TR11 thanks anyway.

:D

Image
Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:18 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 6449

Joined: 11th Nov 2004

Masier wrote:
I think I will stick with my denso K20TR11 thanks anyway.

:D

Image


gap is to small

 

_________________

PERMANENTLY BANNED

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:23 am 
Getting Side Ways
Offline

Posts: 631

Joined: 27th Jan 2007

Ride: Supercharged BA XL ute

Location: Gordonvale
QLD, Australia

A projected insulator plug will give slightly higher compression as well as the flame front being better for combustion,this may be where the gains JMM gets.

 

_________________

BA XL ute.
P'maker headers',Hi flow cat,3" sports sytem,
Raptor V-clutched lightweight not intercooled,no tranny cooler,no worries.

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 3 of 6  [ 84 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 39 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:33 pm All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names