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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:51 pm 
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well dude im gonna give a few other places a call this arv but it looks like head sense will get the job. i'l prob drop the head down to them next week. and dude i dont want a CFI ea cam.... WAYYYY to big im not going crazy... yea he still has then centre and gears... offer him $180 and he may go it. 3.45 gears and lsd centre is well worth it could get $250+ on ebay

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:52 pm 
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ebfairmont3.9 wrote:
similar price from that other place. i think ill stick with headsense! its closer the guy also seems more helpful so headsense it is!




So what happened? So the $350 job quoted in the article turned out to be s**t i take it?
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:09 pm 
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yeah man i dont know whats going on there... sounded too good. for that sort of flow work.

 

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:19 pm 
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That price was a wayyyy old price I even rang him 1 day for a quote . lol . .... I don't know how he could have do it for that as I charge 400 for a machine / cut throats / supply-fit bigger valves and all seats done pressure test chem clean that sort of thing ... then you still have to do the port work .. open up the exhaust to about 40mm and the inlet up to about 42mm

900 is a very good head if done right

1,000 is a street/strip head from me that will flow 450+hp @ 10inchs ..
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:40 am 
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Yeah that sounds about right.... Ill be dropping the head off next week $900 later i think ill be safe to put in a big bloody cam and a chip and pull 190rwkw or more easily... After fuel pump and injector upgrade as well lol

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:21 am 
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Just for your information the way superflow work out HP from their flow figures is

hp potential = 0.27 x No. Cyl x cfm @ 28"

So if your head flows say 220 cfm on the inlet then it is good for 340hp.

You will find an OHC falcon head is good for this sort of power based on this theory. The thing is the camshaft doesn't lift the valves to the lift where the head makes the flow. There is a lot of potential in a 4L engine without touching the ports.

Exhaust, cam, chip and inlet mods can potentially get you to your goal of 160 rwkw (about 270 flywheel hp)

To get an engine to achive the superflow hp figures you would be needing to use extractors, cam with lift up over 0.500" much shorter runners on the inlet manifold and a rev limit up around 6500 rpm.

The saloon car guys are probably the best example of engine that make amazing power despite very restrictive rules. They use stock inlet manifold ported etc, they are only allowed minor valve and port work.
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:46 pm 
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I have all that coming in.... i am getting a custom billet from surecam as a recomendation from the headshop to take advantage of the head work... which would be over 500+ of lift and i already have Competition headers and 3" system straight through, i was thinking of pulling apart the BBM and porting it... etc but i wanna go all out 160rwkw would be easy... but im pushing for closer to 200 now.. which is why ill be spendin almost a grand at a port shop etc... Unichip bla bla....

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:46 pm 
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So got a camera yet for those timeslips?
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:00 pm 
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hey ebfairmont3.9, aren't u getting ahead of your self.
You better sort out your custom BTR/powerglide auto.

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(his auto only has two gears atm)

then worry about trying to keep up

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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:34 pm 
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You forget i have a perfectly good EL box sititng in the garage????

200rwkw is f**k all with a shift kit.

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:35 pm 
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and if that box dies ill have my old box to reco with the works :)

lol and unless you fix your box quick its gonna become a 2 speed in no time.... That flaring means about to drop a gear or 2...

 

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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:51 pm 
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lol, u take it to seriously

and having an 2nd hand auto in the garage, isn't the best place

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plus, the EL's auto only flares occasionally, once its been flogged :twisted:

 

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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:45 pm 
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there are a few over on the Ford Forums that have gone above and beyond 140RWKW N/A.... the most recent was 154 thanks to a CVE race kit rebuild as i recall.....

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 6:57 pm 
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yeah i think your a bit optimistic calling 200rwkw unless your up for an extensive rebuild...

 

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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:02 pm 
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Prob wont make 200 not quite and why "Extensive" No bottom end work is required remember they can handle 10-12psi easy??? This is far from boost.

 

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