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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:20 am 
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G'day iv been on the look out for a cam for my EL Hybrid, i got a list of Crow Cams

http://www.crowcams.com.au/templates/Ca ... -OHC.shtml

Just wondering if someone could recommend a cam for maybe 2800-redline, I also have an auto.

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:35 am 
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Hey mate,

I used to have an EF 6 cyl auto & fitted a Stage 2 crow cam & Unichip & was running a full exhaust system with extractors. I managed to get 150hp at the rear wheels. It wasn't that quick off the line however when it got to about 2000rpm it took off like a rocket. For installation, parts & tuning all up it cost me about $3,500. Make sure you get the vernier cam gear to suit. Hope this helps!
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:57 am 
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oh nice, what actual cam was it? and do you mean 150rwkw?

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:44 pm 
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GeZza200 wrote:
oh nice, what actual cam was it? and do you mean 150rwkw?


^ ditto my filter'd, exhausted, but un-cammed at the momment EA is pumping approx 173hp at the treads.

 

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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:26 pm 
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locknut wrote:

my filter'd, exhausted, but un-cammed at the momment EA is pumping approx 173hp at the treads.


i'd say the dyno your using is quite generous as 117kw after reco'ing the head means your car is making more power than when they were brand new? Based on a 25% driveline loss through the manual.

Have you had it on the track yet?
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Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:31 pm 
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117rwkw is about the same or little more then a AU VCT XR6 so i think it would of been a little bit off

 

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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:51 pm 
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i know 2 guys running the 2549 crow cam in ef and el and they consistly in the mid 14's, i would go with that cam, it needs a chip to run it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:37 pm 
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i would if i had a EF/EL head, i have the hybrid/AU head so i have to get a different cam.

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:06 am 
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Hey,

It was part no. 2222519 (mild peformance cam). I did mean 150hp at the rear wheels. For some reason the tuning shop only worked in hp and not kw. I'm sure someone would be able to convert to kw.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:34 am 
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150hp is 112kw, i really think you would of got 150rwkw with the mods you had

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:35 am 
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well thats so close to stock power its not funny. Go see wade cams for an AU equivalant to the 1673. Then change your diff gears or fit a high stall to make the power more useful
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:57 am 
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ok thx, so wade do a AU cam? or will have to be custom ground so its similar to the 1673?

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:02 am 
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mate wade can grind any cam for you, just gotta tell them what you want.

You would need an 'AU' spec cam but essentially its not for an AU cause you got EL ecu management

Also CMS do a cam for the AU head i think

"We have not had much success with the AU cams. We believe the AU ECU is to blame. It has, however, been suggested to me that the EL hybrid engine has an E series ECU. I cannot confirm if this is true or not. If it does run the E series ECU, l don't see any problem in doing the cam. The profiles that apply to the E series cams don't apply to the AU. The AU has a different rocker ratio to the E series.

As an example, the 977B has a valve lift on the E series of 0.512". Applied to the AU, it drops to 0.461".
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:03 pm 
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locknut wrote:

my filter'd, exhausted, but un-cammed at the momment EA is pumping approx 173hp at the treads.


i'd say the dyno your using is quite generous as 117kw after reco'ing the head means your car is making more power than when they were brand new? Based on a 25% driveline loss through the manual.

Have you had it on the track yet?


a very generous dyno there mate, although depending on what was done to the head and exhaust valves especially, it may be close as the ea had a very restricted flow rate out of the head!

Give Joe at CMS a call Gezza, he has the best cams going for the E series 6's, no need for a chip either, totally ecu friendly. There's a lot of happy monsters in the CMS stable to back it up with results as well. will be picking up a new head on saturday hopefully, will be a Joe Custom based on his stage 2 with some differences, cant wait
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:28 pm 
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ok cheers, what il do is, i think il get all the head work done in melbourne then get CMS to send the cam after. Hope it works well

what sort of head work should i expect to be done for $1200

 

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