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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:57 pm 
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got this reply to a question i asked,,

The XR6 cam that applies to the EA through EL is the same as a standard cam. Its' only till you go to the AU series that the XR6 cam is a "hotter" cam than standard. In other words, you'd be wasting your time.


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so what is going on, :shock: ,i have been lead to believe that installing the ef/el cam in the ea will make a difference,,will it or won't it :?: :?:

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:01 pm 
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my brother has an EF, 5 speed manual, supposedly with XR6 cam and chip, and it flys, kept up with my old AU2 XR8 UTE, bloody nice car. So i would beleive that the XR6 cam is better than the standard cam. Best people to ask would be ford wreckers or even ford themselves.

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:03 pm 
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why would Chris from WADE CAMS not know that James? interesting!!

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:11 pm 
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Happy wrote:
why would Chris from WADE CAMS not know that James? interesting!!


thats what i thought,,very strange

but what i am doing is putting the standard ef/el cam in the ea,,now that should make some bit of diference

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:23 pm 
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Lift and everything is the same, i think the ramps differ, which is maybe why the valve springs are heavier.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:53 pm 
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the ramps are where all the power comes from. Its the dwell over the nose of the cam that really matters and this is why Brendan Mock claims that its useless giving out lift and duration figures for JMM cams. The ramps will greatly increase power if they are steeper but its a balance between power gains and valve float. Ford would have invested thousands in to developing the XR6 cam so that it still passes emission laws but gives a healthy power gain and a friendly idle. So what Chris from wade is saying may be right about the lift duration figures, but the performance is a different story.

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:19 pm 
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Duration and lift are different on the EBII/ED 4.0 and XR6 cams, that's straight from the workshop manual.

I can't imagine EF/EL being any different
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:23 pm 
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do you need to add shims when you put the stock ef/el cam into a ea ?

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:26 pm 
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you shouldnt but a rought measurement with a set of vernier calipers on the lobe base circle will soon enought let you know

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:15 pm 
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PC EB wrote:
Duration and lift are different on the EBII/ED 4.0 and XR6 cams, that's straight from the workshop manual.

I can't imagine EF/EL being any different
According to the manual, lift /duration are same.
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:57 pm 
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pepsimax wrote:
do you need to add shims when you put the stock ef/el cam into a ea ?


You always need to have shims! Just wiht the regrinds you need to have double shims!

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:11 am 
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Heh, just use washers.. Providing the cam isn't that wild.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:12 am 
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i know theres already one in them i just wnt to know will i need to add more or will it be ok with just the one already in it

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:26 am 
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the only difference between stock EF cams and EF XR cams is the duration
lift is exactly the same....
this is taken from the workshop manual.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:44 am 
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lift and duration do not really interest me at this time,all i want to know is despite the cam what do i need to put the ef standard cam in my ea ?

 

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