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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:48 pm 
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you have pulse on the injectors, AND you have fuel flowing back?? Did you consider it might just need the spark plugs removed, and just turned over like that? just to get rid of excess fuel? if its really bad. If not just do the flood clear mode I was talking about above.

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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:54 pm 
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yer i have tryed without fuel pump connected that is what drained the fuel rail pressure and empty the cylinders as well

umm tomorrow ill try the other stuff and see if im a lucky guy or just dry out of luck


for the flood clear mode

you hold ya foot to the floor and it will actervate it when starting the car
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yep, cranking with the TPS > (something like) 90% or 85% enables it.


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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:59 pm 
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yep yep i got tha all on my pad now when i get out side tomorrow ill try it all and get back to you all on it

i so hope it works then i can drive the car into the shed and start painting the car Dark Metalic maroon with dark purple pearl.

with bonnet gills and scoops, rear wing, and so to be side skirts and rear bar

 

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the only other thing i can think of is do you have the fuel hoses on the right places (return on pressure and vice versa)
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:56 pm 
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i took the simple way out of it i got another efi motor and pulled the whole EFI system off and tossed it onto the motor in the engine bay and she runs now but there something weird about it it start and goes up to 3000rpm and site there for a while then slowerly drops to 1100 and idels like a pice of s**t sounds like it missing and minor back fire any idea on what could be doing it?
she starts every time now

Im going to try timming light on her tonight when darker and see how car does after

any other idea on what could be causing it to idel so bad?

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id say the revving up would be ISC related? just disconnct it for testing purposes.

As for idling like a pig... old fuel? does it rev ok?
Is the MAP sensor connected?


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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:43 pm 
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nar fuel only half to week old complete fuel clean out

Ill gone out and checked everything but it all seems ok
whan she idels without spout connector she about 1100 or 1200rpm

what i plug in the spout she jumps up to 3000rpm and dosen't drop

 

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Xflow wrote:
i took the simple way out of it i got another efi motor and pulled the whole EFI system off and tossed it onto the motor in the engine bay and she runs now but there something weird about it it start and goes up to 3000rpm and site there for a while then slowerly drops to 1100 and idels like a pice of s**t sounds like it missing and minor back fire any idea on what could be doing it?
she starts every time now

Im going to try timming light on her tonight when darker and see how car does after

any other idea on what could be causing it to idel so bad?

Thx guys
well mate i would be intersted to know whats the hard way :D, by the sounds it could be a combination of things

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if you unplug the SPOUT connector, it automatically brings the timing to 10 degrees. So, perhaps your dizzy is way to advanced?

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if the timming too far advance i turn it counter clock wize right?

cause i had this problem a while ago the dizzy cap clip hits the block LOL

 

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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:00 pm 
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have you got a timing light? If it hits the block and you need to advance it more, perhaps someone once took the dizzy out, and stuck it in one tooth ahead...?

To retard the timing you need to bring the rotor arm closer to the points... our engines rotate (if you look from the front of the car at the dizzy) clockwise. So, if your engine is too advanced you need to bring the dizzy back a bit, think of the rotor arm sitting 30 degrees after number 1, so 30 degrees to the left of number 1, no to bring number closer obviously your not gonna turn the engine and hold the dizzy, so you turn the dizzy clockwise, bringing the contact closer to the rotor arm.

You said counter clockwise, and to be honest I think I maybe mixing up the engine rotation... I know the firing order is 153624, so find number one, and then number should be either to the left or right of it, which ever one it is, is the rotation direction.


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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:24 pm 
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Yer i got a timming light ill wack it on the motor tomorrow and get it spot on then. yer i got the rotor button all match up to number 1 every time i start the car and the timming pritty close on the dizzy but she so idels so routh i got claps over all the ISC air line and PCV valve line and rocker cover to throttle body hose.

The EGR dosen't have the pipe comming off it it open would that have something to do with the idel



If you really want to see he car running you can download the clip. The file is 7mb so it might take a while to download if you got dial up or small dsl plan
http://home.curl.aunz.net/crossflow/MOV01738.MPG

 

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not sure on EGR... does it normally run off the extractors into the inlet manifold?

Just make sure you've got no vacuum leaks.


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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:38 pm 
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ok, I had a look. And that reminded me that you have an AFM.. I forgot.

Basically it sounds absolutely s**t lol. Is that with the SPOUT disconnected? May I ask how you went about disconneting aswell? did you cut it?

So with the SPOUT connected you have a really high idle, does it rev?

without it, it idles like s**t, and obviously doesn't rev... correct?

How does it idle with the SPOUT connected?

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