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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:36 am 
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whats the top wire do?
how do you dissconnected the orange wire?
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:38 am 
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tell ya what she was running but man ow man she was hoping she wasen't when that was dissconnected

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:39 am 
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The top wire is your PIP (assuming your talkinga bout the wire above the SPOUT on the TFI). Its your Profile Ignition Pickup... it picks up a voltage when your distributor goes past a cylinder so to speak.

PIP is an input needed to the ECU.. no PIP, no start.
SPOUT is an output, not needed by the ECU for just idling. (but for driving its needed). The SPOUT is the signal which advances your timing.


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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:40 am 
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STOP!!!!!!!!!!
i just looked it to the wiring diagram and it say the Spark out connector is on the yellow wire what is the top plug WTF whats going on

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:44 am 
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...thats bizzare.. I really doubt it. Do you have a grey or black TFI module?

http://www.megasquirt.info/ms2/tfi.gif

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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:49 am 
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it grey
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:55 am 
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well, that would explain it still running... just strange.. I thought all TFIs were the same... Interesting thought.
Oh well, I guess that is the SPOUT...considering it still started if you disconnected it.


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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:04 am 
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LOL so many confusions
k tomorrow ill
check vacume leads for leaks
block the EGR
swap Air filter box with known good one from running motor
and see how it goes

 

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and more importnatly check timing with timing light.


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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:28 am 
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k i found a little leak on a vacume lone nothing that bad but i was wondering what in hell do u use to seal it?

 

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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:56 pm 
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you won't beleave this i turned the car off and put the timming light on then went to start the car and wouldn't fire whats so ever take it off no fire again and i ran the car before i thought about the timming light thats how i found the little leak

 

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have you checked for spark? Its probably a good thing that whatever died, died.

Do all the usuals, spark fuel, air, timing, etc...


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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:50 pm 
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k now it runns but only for few seconds but the gas pedal got to be to the floor or she dies

ill check over the plugs and air and all tomorrow after tafe i got a busy night tonight got a lot of work that must be finshed for tomorrow

 

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Have you replaced your fuel pump relay? Apart from that all i can say is tfi module, even though i know you've replaced it. These things are the biggest pieces of s**t. I used to own an xf efi and the tfi module used to play up. I spent so much money on the fuel and electrics system just trying to fix the problem. Eventually i just go p***d off with it, gave it to my mechanic and told him i don't want it back until the problem had been fixed. 3 weeks later and a new tfi module it was running ok (well as good as these engines run) again.

All i can say is once you get it running right again sell the car, they are the biggest piece of s**t motor ever, everyone i know who's had them has had nothing but problems with them. They're not worth the money, i must have spent about 3 times the amount on the engine then the the f**king car was worth just to keep the piece of s**t running. I realise i'm probably going to get flamed for this, but seriously dude, do yourself a favour and get a better car if money permits.

 

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