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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:50 pm 
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Does anyone have the wiring detail for cable between the head unit and the CD stacker for an EF fairmont. I have obtained a unit that I need to test but I can't find this detail anywhere.

Also I am in need for the CD cartridge if some one has one they don't want.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:24 pm 
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In the case of at least the EF/ELs it conforms to Alpines M-BUS standard but uses a different, proprietary connector (most likely to keep people in the dark over its origins to lock them into buying their own overpriced rebadged gear). I did a bit of hunting and this is the closest I got to a pinout:

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As for what wires go where on the Ford connector I couldn't even begin to speculate.

Here are a couple of sites going into detail about how it works:

http://kiora.ath.cx/alpine/
http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/mbus/index.htm

and a site going into some other brands:

http://www.mictronics.de/?page=cdc_proto

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:24 pm 
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i belive the info is in one of the doco's!

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:27 pm 
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All the audio docos I looked at seemed to put the stacker connector in the "too hard" basket...

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:43 pm 
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LSD wrote:
All the audio docos I looked at seemed to put the stacker connector in the "too hard" basket...


One thing I did discover is that the connector at the Head end is the same one I was chasing for absolutely ages without any luck for my Fairmont cluster upgrade. Wish I had known that then.
I think I might be able to work out the stacker end from LSD's info as the wiring is visible, the head end may be a problem as it is likely connected directly to the PCB.

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:46 pm 
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Adaptors are available that convert the Ford plug to the Alpine plug - I have one between my factory head unit and the Alpine stacker under my passenger seat - however it's probably not worth buying one for the sole reason of mapping it out with a multimeter...

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:02 pm 
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Adaptors are available that convert the Ford plug to the Alpine plug - I have one between my factory head unit and the Alpine stacker under my passenger seat - however it's probably not worth buying one for the sole reason of mapping it out with a multimeter...


Out of interest who much would the adapter be worth?

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:29 pm 
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I'm not sure what the connector adaptor is worth on its own. When I had the S634 fitted I was charged $450: $350 for the stacker, $50 for the adaptors and $50 for labour. However, I'm pretty sure I needed at least two adaptors: one to adapt the Ai-Net connector on the 634 to M-BUS and another to adapt the M-BUS connector to the Ford plug on the back of the H/U. I'd estimate 25 bucks for each - outrageous for what they are but considering I got the whole package much cheaper than I thought I would I'm not really complaining.

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:13 pm 
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I got a "genuine" cable (from an FL Fairmont head unit to a genuine stacker) from the company in Melbourne that repairs them.
FMS audio
33 Woodlands Drive Braeside 03 95882755
They "normally" only deal with trade-but I went down there and the guy made one up for me for $50 delivered .
There are 2 different types apparently-so you may have to give them the part# off the stacker (to get the correct plug) or they may give you the wiring specs.
I still have the cable in my car but don't use it anymore as I have an MP3 head unit now.
PM me if you want the cable and we can work out a price (assuming you have a genuine stacker????

 

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