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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:52 pm 
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But I believe up here in Brisbane you cant get many Cop frequencies cause they scrambled them. I only seem to only get like 2 Northern suburb ones only


You'll find they are either Trunked, or APCO25 Digital.

If they are trunked, any trunk tracking scanner should pick them up. Uniden 780xlt comes to mind at around $500 i think

if they are APCO25, you'll need an APCO25 compatible digital scanner to pick them up, BC796D is what I use. Brilliant ~$1300


Trunked? Is that the random swapping of frequencies?

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:06 am 
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:38 am 
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Waggin wrote:
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But I believe up here in Brisbane you cant get many Cop frequencies cause they scrambled them. I only seem to only get like 2 Northern suburb ones only


You'll find they are either Trunked, or APCO25 Digital.

If they are trunked, any trunk tracking scanner should pick them up. Uniden 780xlt comes to mind at around $500 i think

if they are APCO25, you'll need an APCO25 compatible digital scanner to pick them up, BC796D is what I use. Brilliant ~$1300


Geewiz. Time to toss the Uniden out of the window and upgrade then. But how do I find out whether or not it is trunked or Digital scanner I need to get. All I seem to get on the Cop frequency is that Squelch sound.

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:11 am 
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1 SLY 97EL wrote:
Waggin wrote:
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But I believe up here in Brisbane you cant get many Cop frequencies cause they scrambled them. I only seem to only get like 2 Northern suburb ones only


You'll find they are either Trunked, or APCO25 Digital.

If they are trunked, any trunk tracking scanner should pick them up. Uniden 780xlt comes to mind at around $500 i think

if they are APCO25, you'll need an APCO25 compatible digital scanner to pick them up, BC796D is what I use. Brilliant ~$1300


Geewiz. Time to toss the Uniden out of the window and upgrade then. But how do I find out whether or not it is trunked or Digital scanner I need to get. All I seem to get on the Cop frequency is that Squelch sound.


Buy a 796D. It does Trunked, Digital and Digital Trunked - Can't go wrong there!

 

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:16 am 
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Waggin wrote:
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But I believe up here in Brisbane you cant get many Cop frequencies cause they scrambled them. I only seem to only get like 2 Northern suburb ones only


You'll find they are either Trunked, or APCO25 Digital.

If they are trunked, any trunk tracking scanner should pick them up. Uniden 780xlt comes to mind at around $500 i think

if they are APCO25, you'll need an APCO25 compatible digital scanner to pick them up, BC796D is what I use. Brilliant ~$1300


Trunked? Is that the random swapping of frequencies?



Not random. It is organised.

This is a shotty example of how the Motorolla Trunking works:

For each 'base station' There is a control (data) channel, and a number of voice channels. On your Trunked radio, you enter all of the frequencies, and also enter the TALK GROUP you want to be part of.

The data channel is constantly telling radio's which frequency their talk group is operating on.

The chatter on the data channel is somewhat like; 44208 - Go to 417.0175, 38084 - You're no longer on 415.025

Frequencies only get assigned to talkgroups which are in use. The end result is that you can have more discrete groups operating on less channel space - which means less licencing and less radio gear.

In the case of NSW GRN, they may have up to 30-40 services all operating between about 10 frequencies. If they weren't trunked, they'd need to operate 30-40 repeaters, and pay licencing on 30-40 frequencies. Big $. Especially when you remember that there are around 50 base sites in NSW. 50x40= alot of money in licencing an radio gear!

 

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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:59 pm 
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I have got an Uniden UH-013 fitted in my car & I use it to listen to the cops on the Sunshine Coast, I also use the radio as my UHF radio.

You will find picture of the rig in the link below & in my user gallery...

 

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