Fordmods Logo

Tutorial Part 2 - Speaker Location 

 

Page 3 of 4 [ 50 posts ] Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

 
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:20 pm 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

I am currently in negotiations with a plastic moulder to have my original the A pillar design mass produced. (by masss produced i mean limited sets say 20 pairs) i'll keep you all informed.

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:02 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 32

Posts: 3687

Joined: 4th Mar 2005

Gallery: 23 images

Ride: XR6 Turbo

Location: Taree
NSW, Australia

Thats given me so many idears thanks, good stuff

 

_________________

SS Inductions CAI, K&N Filters, M-spec FMC, Turbosmart BOV, 8psi capa tune, X-force cat.

Mods going on: Nizpro springs, bosch 040 pump + Walbro gss341, 600cc injectors, PWR transcooler, 20% Underdrives, 15psi Actuator, Kingspring SSL's, 15psi tune.....More coming

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 4:15 pm 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

2qik wrote:
Just for thought... you can also mount the tweeter here (red circle in pic). When I put mounted mine here I retrimmed the triangular section in cloth so the tweeter's invisible, only diff is instead of being flat panel it will be the shape of a tweeter. That's if you want discrete installation (less likely to get broken into?)


Just be aware there is a significant difference in sound mouted in that location as opposed to the A-pillar.
The size of the sound waves at the frequency's played by tweeters is very small and only a few cm can make a huge difference.

I tried the sail pillars during tuning and found the A-Pillar to be much better for imaging and staging cues.

Unfortunately car audio often comes down to

Budget Vs Form Vs Function


Often times it is simply not practical to mount the speakers you want where you want but that doesn't mean that is not the best location for them to be in...

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:23 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 582

Joined: 20th Nov 2004

Ride: xr6

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

My method for midbass is a little different to what most people would do, but then I am not most people.
I use a Canton 3 way set which comprises a 1 in tweeter a 5 in midrange and a 10 in midbass. I now have the tweeters mounted in the sail area and find with this style of tweeter it works exceptionally well. Best of all the door trim can be reverted back to standard and look untouched which is a big bonus.
Cheers, Outlawxr6

 

 

Attachments:
IMG_1763_resize.JPG
IMG_1763_resize.JPG [ 78.54 KiB | Viewed 182 times ]
IMG_1762_resize.JPG
IMG_1762_resize.JPG [ 77.48 KiB | Viewed 199 times ]

 

_________________

Do it once, Do it right!!!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:30 am 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

Looks nice but how do you revert the door trim nback to standard with a 10" driver mounted on it?

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:49 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 582

Joined: 20th Nov 2004

Ride: xr6

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

It is really easy the mounting panel only covers the area that the original pocket covers so once removed I can just put the pocket back on. Because of the slope in the basket I was able to fit it without removing any exposed material of the door trim itself, and these 10's are 100mm deep with a cast basket!!!!
The cut out portion can simply be glued to the back of the pocket and no one would ever know.
Quite easy really, Outlawxr6

 

_________________

Do it once, Do it right!!!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:23 am 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

I would have thought a 10" would need a much larger enclosure to perform to it's optimum.

The DLS 6.5" require 20litres and the DLS 8" midbasses require 25-30litres, which is 1c/f.

I would have thought the 10" would need at least .8c/f to have a smooth freq response and not be peaky in the lower midbass?

How do you find the freq response in that location? have you had it measured?

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:54 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 582

Joined: 20th Nov 2004

Ride: xr6

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

I am sure that a whole car door is more than 0.8cuft so that isn't a problem and they play nice and flat down into the high 30's......
Cheers, Outlawxr6

 

_________________

Do it once, Do it right!!!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:26 pm 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

The door would be fine as an enclosure but how does the speaker vent into the door unless you have cut the area behind the map pocket? which would then be seen when the pocket is back on.

Do you have a pic?

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:04 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 582

Joined: 20th Nov 2004

Ride: xr6

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

The door trims have been cut but have been done so in such a way that the removed piece can be glued to the map pocket and the re-attached to the door trim and viola, never been modified!!!!!!!
No pics at the moment but I will see what I can do if my speakers sell I will obviously have to remove them and I will get a pic then for you.
Ciao, Outlawxr6....

 

_________________

Do it once, Do it right!!!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:33 pm 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

Sounds goodf...

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:45 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 582

Joined: 20th Nov 2004

Ride: xr6

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

pyroay, Here are the pics as promised, seeing that the Cantons have sold it gave me an opportunity to get a couple of pics of the trim mods.
See what you think......
Cheers, Outlawxr6

 

 

Attachments:
File comment: Close up of pod showing mounting location.
IMG_1832_resize.JPG
IMG_1832_resize.JPG [ 95.2 KiB | Viewed 228 times ]
File comment: Front of door trim pocket re fitted.
IMG_1831_resize.JPG
IMG_1831_resize.JPG [ 93.13 KiB | Viewed 232 times ]
File comment: Front of door trim pod removed without pocket.
IMG_1830_resize.JPG
IMG_1830_resize.JPG [ 97.45 KiB | Viewed 236 times ]
File comment: Back of door trim with pocket re fitted.
IMG_1829_resize.JPG
IMG_1829_resize.JPG [ 64.07 KiB | Viewed 222 times ]
File comment: Back of door trim with pod attached.
IMG_1828_resize.JPG
IMG_1828_resize.JPG [ 107.19 KiB | Viewed 241 times ]

 

_________________

Do it once, Do it right!!!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:02 pm 
Fordmods Audio and Turbo Expert
Offline
User avatar

Age: 37

Posts: 2121

Joined: 14th Dec 2004

Ride: FG Turbo Territoty Ghia

Location: Traralgon
VIC, Australia

Yeah looks fine but i thought from memory that the map pocket actually used the back of the door as it's back panel meaning that even with the map pocket back on it will still have a giant hole i in the back? I could be wrong though...

 

_________________


Pro Class
1st Super Tech - Summernats 2007
Australian SQ Champion - Am Show 2004
Australian SQ Champion – Pro Show 2006 & Best of Show
Ford Champion - Melbourne 2004 & 2006
451.5wkw - now SOLD

Top
 Profile  
 
 
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:40 pm 
Getting Side Ways
Offline
User avatar

Age: 45

Posts: 582

Joined: 20th Nov 2004

Ride: xr6

Location: Brisbane
QLD, Australia

Yes you are correct but when you put the outside of the pocket on you can the refit the inside of the pocket back in place.
Where the hole was cut enables the outside of the pocket to cover the cuts so it isn't visible, a little hot glue and viola, all back to normal!
I am now back to my trusty Kef Uni-Q's in the standard locations in the doors which obviously lacks in midbass compared to the Canton's but it gives me peace in the home!!!!!
Cheers, Outlawxr6....

 

_________________

Do it once, Do it right!!!!!!

Top
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Tutorial Part 2 - Speaker Location
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:04 pm 
Oompa Loompa
Offline

Age: 23

Posts: 21

Joined: 7th Aug 2009

Ride: 1992 Ford EBII

Location: Sydney
NSW, Australia

link isn't working at the moment :S

 

_________________

SIGNATURE TO LARGE. REMOVED BY MODERATOR.

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:
Sort by  
 Page 3 of 4  [ 50 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

 

 

It is currently Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:45 am All times are UTC + 11 hours

 

 

(c)2014 Total Web Solutions Australia - Australian Web Hosting and Domain Names