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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:03 pm 
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Due to fuel costs etc, i have recently purchased this Nissan Bluebird on the cheap. Mechanically sound with new Auto box, and uses a low less fuel around town than the big sixes:
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But the paint is absolutely shocking:
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Looking at doing a home respray in the next few weeks/months as i have time.
This is my first ever attempt, have a small 2hp compressor + a low pressure spray gun. Gonna buy a sander as well before i start.
Can someone give me some ideas on what products to use and perhaps some good books to read or something.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:49 pm 
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why didnt you convert to gas? the government pays 2g.....
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:56 pm 
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always someone out there to give helpful advise....

Common guys, give me some help!!!

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:31 pm 
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Hey mate
I sprayed my first commodore.

Dont rush it, and take a long time on the prep work!!
sand her all back then bog up impurities sand back.
rub down with degreaser then primer sand back high spots
primer sand down primer sand down chuck on ur base coat and sand down with wet and dry repeat 2 times then chuck a few coats of clear coast n rub down with low grade wet n dry n she should look brand new ( if u do it right ) thats just a basic run down. And im sure there are more professional ways.
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:13 pm 
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Mate I would get a bigger compressor. But as said above just take your time.
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:28 am 
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JPK wrote:
Hey mate
I sprayed my first commodore.

Dont rush it, and take a long time on the prep work!!
sand her all back then bog up impurities sand back.
rub down with degreaser then primer sand back high spots
primer sand down primer sand down chuck on ur base coat and sand down with wet and dry repeat 2 times then chuck a few coats of clear coast n rub down with low grade wet n dry n she should look brand new ( if u do it right ) thats just a basic run down. And im sure there are more professional ways.


do you mean i should just sand back the crap paint and use bog to will up the cracks etc?
i was thinking i was going to have to strip it back to bare metal and prime it.

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:30 pm 
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It has crows feet, the only safe way to fix is back to metal, not worth taking any hair brain risks, they always come back as the paint underneath continues to crack causing the paint above to do the same.

I am no spray painter but I have been an assistant for too many paint jobs and had first hand experience with painting over crows feet.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that painting the top coat is the hard part, the hard part is the prep work, it does not matter how good a spray painter is, if the underneath is crap the rest will look or end up crap.

The bonus you are starting with white, it doesn't show up mistakes like darker colours.

Two common sanding mistakes I know are, orbital and hand sanding, it is much quicker to use an orbital sander but make sure the tell tail piggy tails are not left behind (most of us would have seen a top paint job ruined by them), with hand sanding avoid using your fingers, use a block as much as possible, otherwise you end up sanding groves of your fingers into the paint. I haven't helped or done any touch ups in a while so I am sure plenty of members could advise you of many other things to watch out for not shown on material instructions.

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:04 pm 
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I was thinking about buying a small orbital/random sander for the job. and thats what i thought about the 'crows feet' - by the look of it, someone has already tried to respray it i think and it's just made it worse.
Are there any brands of paint i should / shouldn't touch? will definitely be going acryllic.

 

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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:31 pm 
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paint stripper or get a ripper disc on a grinder..
back to bare metal .. :wink: then go from there.



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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:45 pm 
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One thing I would add from recently respraying the roof of my old pajero is (as the others have said) take your time, by this I mean after all the prep work is done, allow plenty of time in between coats to dry before sanding back. Also, don't apply the coats too thick, better to build up with plenty of light coats with a quick sand in between. I was a bit impatient and ended up with runs everywhere, but I got away with it because it was the roof of a big 4x4. I pointed it out to the buyer, but unless you got up to look at the roof you wouldn't notice.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:26 pm 
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If you want it to look good, take it to a spray painting place. i am an ex panel beater and the problem is every one thinks its easy. its not at all. i noticed jarrod said "rub it down twice" what about the other four times. it is not worth the head ache and sheer bad looking backyartd job, i say either pay someone to do it or dont waste monet on the materials.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:08 pm 
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no way i would even attempt to "rub down" the paint on it - it is totally shagged. Will be back to metal and primed for sure...

 

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