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 Post subject: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:03 am 
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Anyone got an idea what might be the cause?

I've always had whistling wind when driving and have noticed some road noise as if the door is not shut tight. I placed my fingers at the top, between door and roof and have noticed the driver door has some movement. I don't think there should be any movement when the door is closed.

I have experienced this problem for close to 2.5 years.

I checked the door for any movement and did notice when I lifted the door with both hands, there is a slight movement, but nothing seen.

Old bloke reckons it might be the pin that's worn that secures the door to the front frame via hinges.

I also noticed there is a rusty hole that's formed in the middle of that pillar.

Do these pins wear out?

Or would it be the door has never been aligned correctly?

There is bit of a gap where the door does not sit flush against the roof. The passenger side is good and fits firm against the roof.

To fix this rust, the door bolts are 10mm. Not enough room for a socket except ring spanner.

Can I realign the door by having a clear run of the bolts by removing the front drivers side guard?

Any advice is welcome.

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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:00 pm 
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could it also be a poor door seal?
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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:55 pm 
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if its in an au it would be more than likely the hinges are worn ..

if you look at the hinges there is a plastic block between the door hinge lower and pillar hinge upper, you can lever the plastic blocks out, once both are out providing the loom is disconnected you can lift the door off, separating the hinge..

you can still buy replacement hinges from ford or you can try adjust them by the bolts but from memory there isn't really any room for adjustment
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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:50 pm 
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Thanks for the reply,

phatba, door seals are good, I have checked them

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Troyman

It is an AUII , hinges hmmm, I did see a plastic block between the door hinge lower and pillar hinge upper.

I did not realise the door could come off that way, I though one would have to undo those 10mm bolts. The bolts are tight.

Troyman, to disconnect the loom, do I need to remove the door trim and disconnect the wires from inside the front door?

Good to know replacement hinges are still available.

To adjust those door hinges and tighten those hinge bolts would be difficult without accessing the bolts via the front guard removed. Unless there is another method.

To ensure I have the door flush , it would need to be shut tight,aligned then tighten the hinge door bolts when the door is shut with the front guard removed to gain access to the front door hinge bolts...would be the right way to go about this or is there a more simpler method?

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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:50 am 
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I'll be attempting to change the door hinges next week.
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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:13 am 
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Not as straight forward as it seems.
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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:35 am 
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AU's are known for wearing out the hinges quickly.
A 10mm ratchet spanner is your friend.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Suspect Drivers Door and rust detected in front pillar
Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:41 pm 
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cjh,

Thanks, 10mm Ratchet spanner it will have to be.

But how does one stop the door hinge from slipping once the door is aligned correctly?

The only way I know of to align a door is to have the door hinge bolts loosen, shut the door so its all aligned to where it should sit and then tighten the bolts. The only way that I can see to that is to remove the front guard to gain access to those bolts.

Would that be correct?
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