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 Post subject: Factory Subwoofer Manufacturer
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:46 pm 
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Folks, anyone know who made them ??
The EF/EL speakers are pioneer (EB/ED are Alpine ??), but I'm assuming the sub is a different brand, since it's probably the same type used from EB to about EL.
About all I know is they're an 8" free air type, and is 6 ohms impedance.

Reason I ask is I have one, and it's in good condition, but the speaker cone foam is disintegrated, but you can replace it - http://stores.ebay.com.au/www-SimplySpe ... 34.c0.m322 .
And there's plenty of docos online on how to do it.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Factory Subwoofer Manufacturer
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:59 pm 
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Early e series speakers are pioneer too...I would have guessed the woofer was too? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Factory Subwoofer Manufacturer
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:04 am 
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Well I'm guessing that's probably the case - unlike the smaller speakers, the sub only has the ford number 91DA-xxx and emblem, etc on the back, no manufacturer, unfortunately.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Factory Subwoofer Manufacturer
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:08 am 
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I've never seen one from an e series... But there was a B series one floating around home once... Not sure about it now... :?

Unless Papa can pull specs off the Ford data base from the number?

The drivers all seemed to be pioneer while the high end end player in the early e series was an alpine so go figure what they were up to there...

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:17 am 
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Other thing is the sub is 6 ohms - you'd expect 4 ohms. And I suppose a 4 ohm sub would still work happily on the factory amp.
I know probably I'll get the 'Why don't you just buy another sub?', but I'd think this would be a common condition where the foam has suffered sun damage, and if I can source and fit a suitable replacement foam, it would be useful info on here.
I actually didn't think you could repair speaker cones/foams, etc.

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:21 am 
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Na it is the first I've seen of it...

My car had none and I wanted a JBL sub (preferred brand) but was hard to get one... I ended up with a pioneer shallow mount sub in the parcel tray which hangs no further than the boot channel... Sounds great for what it is... Gives me full boot space still...

I never ventured into getting a factory one only because I'm not a paper cone fan, nor a foam surround fan for those reasons... Like things to be a little more durable...

But its always good to see people repairing instead of replacing because the art of repairing will be no more in not to distant future :shock:

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:35 am 
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Yes, repairing is a dying art.
Other thing is if the voice coil is okay - I'm assuming if a resistance check is okay, then the voice coil should be too.

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:43 am 
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Yeah its only a coil between the terminals so if it measures right that's all there is you can do...

Obviously the cone and spider are OK? Other than those... Do magnets loose magnetism? :? Not much else to them that can go wrong...

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 Post subject: Re: Factory Subwoofer Manufacturer
Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:53 am 
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Might be worth giving these guys a call. http://www.totalrecoil.com.au/
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:58 am 
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TimmyA wrote:
Yeah its only a coil between the terminals so if it measures right that's all there is you can do...

Obviously the cone and spider are OK? Other than those... Do magnets loose magnetism? :? Not much else to them that can go wrong...

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Magnets loose their magnetic properties when you heat them up. So if you burn your coil, you effectively also over heat parts of the magnet making the magnet a tiny bit weaker...got to melt it for it to really lose it's magnetism.

Also snap...the foam surround can be changed easily...the cone is a little bit harder though. You can always replace the standard plastic/paper cone with a custom carbon fibre type one...will last longer that's for sure.

 

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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:46 am 
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BAXLS03 wrote:
Might be worth giving these guys a call. http://www.totalrecoil.com.au/
Thanks for the link.
TimmyA wrote:
Obviously the cone and spider are OK?
Yep, both are fine. Spider hasn't sagged.
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Also snap...the foam surround can be changed easily...the cone is a little bit harder though. You can always replace the standard plastic/paper cone with a custom carbon fibre type one...will last longer that's for sure.
Yeah, e.g. this is a good guide http://www.decware.com/newsite/refoam.htm . Thing is you need to be careful your repair cost doesn't blow out - then it gets to whether buying new is the better option. The speaker location will be out of direct sunlight - unlike a rear parcel shelf.
I'm guessing it shouldn't matter what type of 8" replacement foam you use - brand specific.
I could be wrong though - hence I guess I'll need to contact a few repair outlets.
The foam I noticed on the factory sub is glued onto underneath the cone.

 

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