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 Post subject: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:56 pm 
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Hi Guys,

I need a bit of help.

I am converting a GLi to Fairmont (I know, I've got too much time on my hands) and have used the doco on here for installing the Elec window winders (using original looms ect). Issue is that the part number mentioned for the door rivets (the metal ones with thread in the middle, used for screwing the door handles on) does exist, but Ford does not sell them anymore. (I actually found that you can get nearly nothing anymore from Ford for E series!! :shock: ).

Any ideas on to where I could get these rivets? Pref in Perth, if eastcoast it needs to be a mob that posts them.

Cheers for your help!
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:42 pm 
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Wrecker would be the best bet, should be able to get them for nuthin at the right place. What that is in Perth I have no idea sorry, East coaster here.....

 

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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:57 pm 
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Wrecker would be the best bet, should be able to get them for nuthin at the right place. What that is in Perth I have no idea sorry, East coaster here.....


Cheers for the reply, but they are rivets. You cannot get them out of the door. Once installed they stay there. If I was able to get them from the wreckers I would have...

I have already been thinking about welding nuts in the holes ect, but rather not.

Anyone??
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:09 pm 
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Wrecker would be the best bet, should be able to get them for nuthin at the right place. What that is in Perth I have no idea sorry, East coaster here.....


Cheers for the reply, but they are rivets. You cannot get them out of the door. Once installed they stay there. If I was able to get them from the wreckers I would have...

I have already been thinking about welding nuts in the holes ect, but rather not.

Anyone??

that may be the only way as they where aluminium,or use a 50mm sq plate or flat bar.5-6mm thick,aluminium and drill and tap the hole you need,use 2-4 rivets fix the plates to the door,no welding and still strong,bit of a pita,but a way around it.or swap the doors to fairmont

 

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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:56 pm 
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Cheers for the replies so far. I've been told by Ford themselves Wurth might still be able to supply them. I'll check this in the next few days. If they do have them I'll be able to finally fit the door cards.

Good idea on the plate, have been thinking of a similar solution, but factory would be preffered.

Let's see how we go!

Cheers again!
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 3:17 pm 
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When I put ef/el fairmont door trims in my ed I ended up using plastic screw grommets
10G in "Champion Panel Packs" available from Auto One. Only problem I had was one rear
door was an early model ea/eb and didn't have the rivet holes, so I just screwed the armrest directly to the door. These plastic grommets are the same as the plastic grommets that hold the ed interior door handles in place. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:57 pm 
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Hi um just wondering wat the bracket looks like the picture dosn't come up on my computer when in the tech documents.

Ive just done the power window conversion to my ed xr8 sprint but have put the original door trims back on till i find some eb ghia ones.

Could some one please post a picture of what there talking about i might know wat im in for when i have to change the door trims thank you very much
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:26 pm 
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what about those rivet nuts you can buy and they come in a m6 they look like what your talking about if they are the same as in the power windows tech document
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:54 pm 
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Hi guys,

Cheers for all the comments. Finally I got 8 for only $1.30!!! Go to any fastners place and you'll get a huge choice of scrivets, rivet nuts or whatever people like calling them...
Works a treat and the door handles are nice and tight!

PS: the fairmont conversion (from GLi) nearly complete!!! :) Only need to hook up the last bits for the ABS and I am done!

Also got my XR8 rims and tickford skirts ready and waiting to add on!!! Can't wait!
Will leave that for another post.
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:20 pm 
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Unscrew the inside door handle the plastic screw grommets are used here. Round on the trim side square where it goes through the door skin.

Good to hear you got your rivetnuts, Great score at 0.16 cents each or so, as I said I couldn't get any from ford, obsolete, They also wanted to charge me $5 something each for the 5mm rivets for the power window motor bracket. I paid $5 a pack for nuts and bolts.

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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:02 pm 
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Its shocking how much stuff for E series Ford does no longer supply!
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:30 pm 
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the_axeman wrote:
Its shocking how much stuff for E series Ford does no longer supply!

ford are lucky to service parts for 10 years, most e series stuff is obsolete and au is starting to go that way aswell..
give a couple of years and ba stuff will start getting obsolete..
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:46 pm 
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They guy I spoke to at Ford here in Perth said that interior parts of the BA's are getting NLA!! :shock:

I am restoring a 1977 6-series BMW, I can still order new parts for that car at BMW...
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:36 pm 
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we used to use somthing very similar at work .. they where called "huck rivets"

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File comment: Getting the torque on bolts right is very tricky business for many companies. Huck fasteners mistake-proof this problem using a hybrid: half “pop-rivet,” half bolt. The tension on the bolt is created in a linear fashion and the “nut” is clamped in place and the excess bolt length is cut off. The only drawback is that removal involves cutting the bolt off and installing a new one after repairs
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 Post subject: Re: Installing high series door trim in GLi
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:02 pm 
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Hi mate,

Thanks for the reply. It's been a while since I worked on this. Since I have resolved the issue by getting some of the rivets from a fastner place and tightening them with a bolt and nut. Squeezing the rivet in-between worked a treat. To make sure they stay where they are I tacked one side of the rivet to the door with a welder. They are sturdy as now.

I could have gone out and bought an actual screw rivet gun, but they cost a fair bit. Cheapest I could find was 100 dollars and I could not justify buying one just for the 8 rivets.

Cheers!
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