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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:38 pm 
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yep grab some knee pads ur an idiot

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:40 pm 
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why am i an idiot for wanting to do up my car? i am gonna be doing the following:

complete rebuild of engine
3.7 LSD Diff
T5
new shock
new wheels&tires
new bodykit
new interior
new seats
etc etc

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:51 pm 
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Righto, so the pieces are replaced, but THE CAR has still travelled X amount of K's. No ford workshop will change it back to 0 just because you have replaced everything. Leave it as is, and when you go to sell the car, tell the buyers that it had everything replaced. And theyll under stand. Also, if you do ever manage to wind it back, you cant wind it back any further then when you bought the car. Its recorded on the pink slip when you buy/sell a car, and as it travels through the databases, it WILL get picked up. Happy changing :)

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:53 pm 
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comhelp wrote:
why am i an idiot for wanting to do up my car? i am gonna be doing the following:

complete rebuild of engine
3.7 LSD Diff
T5
new shock
new wheels&tires
new bodykit
new interior
new seats
etc etc


I understand what you are saying but it still doesn't make it a new car, and the law says its not a new car. There will always be parts on it that are old/worn that you haven't considered replacing.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:20 pm 
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Eproms ( usually the 8-pin variety ) are common for storing data, not only in domestic electronics like TV, Audio and Video but certainly in vehicle electronics. Should you be silly enough to want to change the data you will need the Ford factory equipment or a gang reader which you plug up to PC's. With that you can read the raw data but you will have to decipher what equals what when you dump the data onscreen.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:48 pm 
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The way the instrument cluster places wind the odo forward or backward is basically the same as powering up the cluster, and feeding it a +5V square wave signal.....

The backyard way of doing it would be
1) Supply power and ground to the required pins on the cluster.
2) Wire a speedo sender up from a transmission (Preferably removed from the transmission)
3) Connect drill to speedo sender, and spin....

Note: I cant remember what the speed = frequency is, but the speedos wont read anything over 280-340km/hr.

This means that to wind a speedo backward 1 kay (I.E. winding it forward 999,999Kms) takes a looooong looooong time.

Typically an instrument cluster specialist will want the cluster for 1 week, and will charge you $250-$300 for the privlidge. (I looked in to this when I changed my cluster to a high series one many years ago).

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:07 pm 
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If you have $650 to spare go to ford spare parts and ask for a new instrument cluster. no questions asked.

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 Post subject: Re: Clusters
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:00 pm 
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That is absolute frog s**t NO CLUSTERS WIND THESELVES FORWARD OR BACKWARD I have an au and have changed the cluster to a BRAND NEW Cluster and the car originally had 130,000ks it has 45,000 on it now, and for the EA winding forward your a spinout what a whole lot of crap. In EF/EL - AU ( don't know about BA) the K's are kept on an eeprom in the cluster this can be changed by anyone knowing about surface mount soldering or using the device ford dealers have.


u try it then ... rip the engin, box, wire loom and ECU from a NC fairlane and chuck it all into an EA fairmont. done it for me.

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:23 pm 
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comhelp wrote:
why am i an idiot for wanting to do up my car? i am gonna be doing the following:

complete rebuild of engine
3.7 LSD Diff
T5
new shock
new wheels&tires
new bodykit
new interior
new seats
etc etc
well while your buying all your new parts buy a new dash seems obvious to me
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 Post subject: Re: EF/EL - AU K's
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:10 am 
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XGPANELVAN wrote:
Sturmovik wrote:
XGPANELVAN wrote:
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If you change a speedo in EF/EL - AU they don't reset to what the car was originally. They keep the k's that that speedo has done.


my ea wound foward after i changed the ECU.

so dont u think EF/EL's would??

its all electrical, the whole speedo and odometer is read from the ECU.


:lol: Bull sh!t
Ive changed my ECU to an aftermarket one and it still works, and winding forward after an ECU change? Are you on crack?



engin, gearbox, wire loom, ECU was changed, k's wound foward once ECU was hooked up. from 270,000 to almost 350,000


What are you on ?? :shock: :roll:

 

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 Post subject: Re: Clusters
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:50 am 
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u try it then ... rip the engin, box, wire loom and ECU from a NC fairlane and chuck it all into an EA fairmont. done it for me.


You better get a priest and get that car exersized, or an optometrist to get your eyes checked, because it is absolute CRAP.
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 Post subject: Re: Clusters
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:59 am 
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XGPANELVAN wrote:
Jay_78 wrote:
That is absolute frog s**t NO CLUSTERS WIND THESELVES FORWARD OR BACKWARD I have an au and have changed the cluster to a BRAND NEW Cluster and the car originally had 130,000ks it has 45,000 on it now, and for the EA winding forward your a spinout what a whole lot of crap. In EF/EL - AU ( don't know about BA) the K's are kept on an eeprom in the cluster this can be changed by anyone knowing about surface mount soldering or using the device ford dealers have.


u try it then ... rip the engin, box, wire loom and ECU from a NC fairlane and chuck it all into an EA fairmont. done it for me.


No one has ask yet, but did you change the cluster as well... Might explain alot... :D

Otherwise, as has been suggested, go see your local priest and get an exorcism.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:57 pm 
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maybe u just did lots of kms without noticing lol...you may think im stupid...but we all think u r too...its just as possible!
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:50 pm 
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I tell you the ECU has absolutely no impact on the odometer reading. Anyone who says the odometer wound forwards or backwards when the ECU was plugged in is full of s**t.

I have done many cluster swaps on many E series Falcons (don't ask why) and they all read what they used too. Some where auto, some were manual, some had trans ECUs some didn't. All the same end result.

 

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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:24 pm 
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I thought the reading was stored in a IC attached to the cluster. Nothing to do with the ECU at all...

 

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