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							http://carsguide.news.com.au/story/0,20 ... 22,00.html
 considering the bf is basically the same car as the 2002 ba and the ve has had $1 billion spent i think holden have not made any real headway. no doubt when motor get their hands on them they'll give it the usual holden bias. 
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							pretty much expected that. Surprised how well they marked the Futura tho. As said, they considering its brand new and was a 1billion dollar overhaul, its not too great news for Holden if it only 'just' nudged out its competition						
						
						
								
							 
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							WTF!!!!!!!!!
 "THERE is no competition when it comes to exterior styling. The Berlina looks so much better than the Futura, which is a now a plain Jane. With its flared wheel arches, coupe-like roof line and 17-inch wheels, the Holden wins the fashion battle. " 
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							A bit slow there Prydey... I posted that at 3:30pm earlier today    | |||
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							sorry mate.  i obviously didn't see it.  maybe you could put a link so as not to have 2 threads on same topic.						
						
						
								
							 
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							that surprised me, the spent a billion on the VE and it is still only marginally better than the BF? sounds like someone stuffed up since the BF has been around a while now. After that much money you would think that it wouldnt be that marginal.
 I like that if you want to tow or drive hard buy the Ford, that is priceless.......... 
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 | {USERNAME} wrote: that surprised me, the spent a billion on the VE and it is still only marginally better than the BF? sounds like someone stuffed up since the BF has been around a while now. After that much money you would think that it wouldnt be that marginal. I like that if you want to tow or drive hard buy the Ford, that is priceless.......... Remember this was comparing the Fairmont equivalent commodore to a base model falcon. If ford drop the price of the mont to match the VE, i think it's game on. | |||
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							very interesting review i think the bf still stacked up fairly well except for subjective things like style and ride. after driving my dads ba ute ive goto say the driving position is s**t						
						
						
								
							 
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 | {USERNAME} wrote: {USERNAME} wrote: that surprised me, the spent a billion on the VE and it is still only marginally better than the BF? sounds like someone stuffed up since the BF has been around a while now. After that much money you would think that it wouldnt be that marginal. I like that if you want to tow or drive hard buy the Ford, that is priceless.......... Remember this was comparing the Fairmont equivalent commodore to a base model falcon. If ford drop the price of the mont to match the VE, i think it's game on. But I am tired of them [reviewers] calling the car's design dated! It looks better than the "plastastic" Commodore in my books. But it is funny how a car that is essentially 4 years old is still tough competition for the brand new billion dollar mistake that Holden just made. | |||
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							i hate comparing looks of cars because everyones tastes are different and personal choice yet they say the ve is great looking bullsh!t						
						
						
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							Precisely. I personally prefer the smooth, sleek "business only" design the Ford has, that's how I am. But of course, we all know these reviews are written by turds that take it out onto a rural road and rip a patch and make their decision based on that. (Exaggeration)						
						
						
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