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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:13 pm 
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saw this advertised on TV the other day in Adelaide, the new Hyundai Grandeur V6 (http://www.grandeur.com.au/) has 194kw's, which is more than Ford's new BF's are pushing out! Admitadely it is more expensive and probably has less torque and overall is probably not as reliable engine or something, but still I find it embarressing that our BF XR6's are pushing out less power than a Hyundai! And when you think that ford have pretty much been developing the same engine for 30 years now starting from the old 250's it ain't that good...

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:41 pm 
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so what it aint much diff it waht 4kw?

bet ya the grandcrap is heavier and slower as well!

 

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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:16 pm 
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i thought the ba where 182kw whick would make it 12kw more

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:14 am 
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i thought the ba where 182kw whick would make it 12kw more

BA 182
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:01 am 
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this is a comparison the the bf fairmont same price, fairly similar specs the bf is only 30 kg heavier performance wise i cant imagine there being much difference. according to the figures 0-100 in the hyundai is 7.2 7.7 secs for the falcon

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/ve ... y=HYUN06CD
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:10 am 
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so basically our fairmont is being beaten by a Hyundai!

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:21 am 
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now thats just sucks!


but what would u buy?

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:53 am 
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but what would u buy?


that's a silly question after owning only falcons for my entire driving career (3 falcons in 4 years).
but it's still embarresing that Hyundais are above us! Shows that Ford and Holden need to kick themselves and do a bit more! There having a hard enough time selling the big 6's at the moment with the petrol hike and that, being beaten in power (and probably economy) by Hyundai ain't gunna help sales!!!

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:03 am 
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You are right with ford developing the six for 30 odd years, but it isnt the 250, it was the 144Cui in the XK that saw the ford 6 first in Australia. And it was a deamon compared to the Holden 138 Grey Motor
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:17 am 
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Disco Frank wrote:
but what would u buy?


that's a silly question after owning only falcons for my entire driving career (3 falcons in 4 years).
but it's still embarresing that Hyundais are above us! Shows that Ford and Holden need to kick themselves and do a bit more! There having a hard enough time selling the big 6's at the moment with the petrol hike and that, being beaten in power (and probably economy) by Hyundai ain't gunna help sales!!!


So your plan to combat falling sales figures due to fuel prices... is to increase the horsepower of the motor?

Good plan :roll:

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:43 am 
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So your plan to combat falling sales figures due to fuel prices... is to increase the horsepower of the motor?

Good plan :roll:


well making the engine run more efficently should increase power. And look great on the sales brocher! take the BA to BF upgrade for example, 8 kw's gained and a more efficent engine meeting EuroIII now!

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:23 pm 
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i wouldnt say that the hyundai is 'better' than our falcons. sure, they look like they might be a bit quicker, but id still rather pull up in a nicely polised bf fairmont then a hyundai. think of it 5 years down the track, the fords will still be runnin when the hyundai is on its 3rd engine

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:30 pm 
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excellent now i have justification to spend lots on my car to the missus.... i couldnt stand being beaten by a ricer hyundai with a big f@rt cannon and neon lit washers....

 

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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:09 pm 
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I don't think we've got anything to worry about fellas. Imagine pulling up to the lights in your 6 speed ZF auto equipped BF Fairmont, only to a find a Hyndai there waiting for you. Even if the thing did keep up or (god forbide) get a nose in front, which car do you think will be more enviable? A FWD, high powered 6 with plenty of torque steer? Or a RWD, established, respected Falcon???
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