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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:56 am 
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Hi everyone guy and girls i'm just after a turbo for my car i'm going to redo my Engine up in my EF i6 Fairmont for turbo if anyone has any hints or tip please pm me as i would like 2 know more and post up in here if yous have any really good photos of DIY Stuff

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:40 am 
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best tip is not to do it if u dont have the money despite the temptation

thats why im keeping mine NA :)

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:46 am 
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Do a bit of research mate - have a read through here and through people's build threads.
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:32 am 
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http://www.fordmods.com/forums/how-to-t ... 12309.html

Chef made a tutorial.

What sort of power are you after ?
Will you have enough cash to keep it on the road ?
Engines, gearboxs, clutches, diffs all show there age when boosted.

I'm not trying to be an a** or anything but have you thought about engineering ?
You won't get insured otherwise.
Standalone ECU, fuel pump, injectors, piping, fuel regulators (depending on how much boost youw ant)

You might get running for cheap, but things are no doubt going to brake / start to melt (brake booster)
Big brakes are highly recommended.
Also a oil catch won't hurt :)

Most people I've read about turboing theirs go for a 3" exhaust.

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:51 am 
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Xr_Fairmont, from what i gather this turbo idea is not for you.... at least for awhile

Even a quick-ish N/A setup will drain your account, let alone a turbo setup

Try aim for some decent extractors and exhaust for your car first, then maybe a diff ratio change along with LSD, then a cam.

This will give your car a noticable difference in performance over stock, and still will cost a couple grand.

Think about things realistically, and you might progress with your car
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:02 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
Xr_Fairmont, from what i gather this turbo idea is not for you.... at least for awhile

Even a quick-ish N/A setup will drain your account, let alone a turbo setup

Try aim for some decent extractors and exhaust for your car first, then maybe a diff ratio change along with LSD, then a cam.

This will give your car a noticable difference in performance over stock, and still will cost a couple grand.

Think about things realistically, and you might progress with your car


Not quite sure how you can tell someone that turboing there car is not for them.

I didn't have enough money (still don't) when I did mine but it all come together if you shop around (especially on here) you can pick turbo stuff up everywhere. If you want to go down that path go for it but having said that it will cost you a fair bit of coin. If you don't want to spend it or you don't have it to spend don't do it. But in the end it is your choice. You can always get it up and running for cheap and do all the little things bit by bit then you can spread the cost out a bit.

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:02 pm 
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FordFairmont wrote:
Xr_Fairmont, from what i gather this turbo idea is not for you.... at least for awhile

Even a quick-ish N/A setup will drain your account, let alone a turbo setup

Try aim for some decent extractors and exhaust for your car first, then maybe a diff ratio change along with LSD, then a cam.

This will give your car a noticable difference in performance over stock, and still will cost a couple grand.

Think about things realistically, and you might progress with your car


Not quite sure how you can tell someone that turboing there car is not for them.

I didn't have enough money (still don't) when I did mine but it all come together if you shop around (especially on here) you can pick turbo stuff up everywhere. If you want to go down that path go for it but having said that it will cost you a fair bit of coin. If you don't want to spend it or you don't have it to spend don't do it. But in the end it is your choice. You can always get it up and running for cheap and do all the little things bit by bit then you can spread the cost out a bit.


yes i am doing my turbo upgard i'm getting the Engine done 4 turbo but i wanna C if i can pic up a Chep'ish turbo dosn't have 2 have everything i'm not after a intercooler cause i'm going with an Engine mounted one cause i like em spreading out the cost a bit. Yes i am doing that

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:06 pm 
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ddoth wrote:
http://www.fordmods.com/forums/how-to-turbo-your-i6-the-diy-way-with-pics-t12309.html

Chef made a tutorial.

What sort of power are you after ?
Will you have enough cash to keep it on the road ?
Engines, gearboxs, clutches, diffs all show there age when boosted.

I'm not trying to be an a** or anything but have you thought about engineering ?
You won't get insured otherwise.
Standalone ECU, fuel pump, injectors, piping, fuel regulators (depending on how much boost youw ant)

You might get running for cheap, but things are no doubt going to brake / start to melt (brake booster)
Big brakes are highly recommended.
Also a oil catch won't hurt :)

Most people I've read about turboing theirs go for a 3" exhaust.


What sort of power are you after ? i'm after more Torque than kw
Will you have enough cash to keep it on the road ? it wont B a day'ly driver 4 me so keeping it on rd yer

I'm not trying to be an a** or anything but have you thought about engineering ? i know your not but at least yous are bing truthful

 

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:28 pm 
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Dellar69 wrote:
You can always get it up and running for cheap and do all the little things bit by bit then you can spread the cost out a bit.


yeah thats seems to be all too common these days.....

People doing cheap POS turbo setups........ good luck with all that lol
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:54 pm 
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i was in your shoes not oo long ago mate, did hours and hours of research on the forums about everything related to turboing the i6.

I wanted just a budget set up, good for 200rwkw so i didn't bust my gearbox and other things.

If you go snort, your looking at around 5k for their basic kit installed and running, i got a quote from them. Thats just the basics, no rebuilt engine, no aftermarket ECU, no bigger injectors, just your turbo, manifold, cooler and not much more than what it takes to get that running.

You can do it for cheaper though if you source the parts 2nd hand (obviously, but that will cost you roughly 2k if you get it all cheap and 2nd hand, as far as I have researched.

Then you'd have to put it together yourself, else your looking at thousands for someone else to doit.

Add 500 or so for an engineers certificate so you can get insurance. Then see if you can get insurance even with it, especially in NSW.

My conclusion? Do up my EA keeping it NA - extractors, 2.5 cat back, 3.45 diff, cam plus lowering, rims, stereo, tint etc, and when you can afford it buy a car that is already turbo.

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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:56 pm 
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try eseries owners club, its a forum about turboing the e series (called boosted eseries also).

very useful, look for posts by iceman he is from snort.

cheap setups see maybe EFFalcon's threads, exxy set ups see Rollin threads.

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:15 am 
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yer well i'm paying $3600 4 my Engine 2 get ready 4 a turbo i'm not doing the hole lot cause a can't but yer it's getting a BA XR6 turbo set up done on my EF block and head it's run 8.8 comp in the Engine

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:02 am 
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Consider an AU engine ?? Yes comp is high but with stand alone ecu and good tune 270 rwkw can be achieved.. BUT be aware these engines make MASSIVE torque when turbocharged!! Forget about T5 gear box!! Only the BTR will take this power with some mods.. Atleast an extra trans cooler and some tweaking to lift line pressure for quicker shifts.. The Master Power / Borge warner SX turbo's can be bought new for around $1k.. Don't even consider a Chnese turbo...
In some ways its best to get a low milage late model motor [$600 to $1200] and spend $$ on good tune etc..
They also have better rod ratio, stronger bottom end for about the $$ of a set of rods..
Another option is to fit LPG ?? So it does away with fuel upgrade you would have to do with petrol ...

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:40 pm 
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I well never run my car on LPG

 

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:44 pm 
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READ THIS!!! from start to finish, I did and learnt a lot from it.

http://www.turbomustangs.com/turbotech/ ... ger_theory

 

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