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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:45 am 
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the quarterhorse works on the 6 cylinder also ( live tune ) however you wont have access to the live dash/datta logging ect as there isnt a patch ( adx file ) created for them . for this reason i wouldnt recommend the quarterhorse as 50% of its intended purpose is not able to be used ( unless someone creates the adx file to suit

the v8 platform is a very differant story as the qaurterhorse can be used to its full potential the usa guys have made the patch codes to suit
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:48 am 
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One thing I did forget to mention, if your doing DIY tuning you will need a wideband o2 sensor so that you can get your AFR's.

Personally I would recommend the Innovate units, personal preference.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:42 pm 
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SWC wrote:
2 types of Supercharger, Centrifical (belt driven Turbo :( ) and PD (positive Displacement :D :D :D :D :D ).

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Go PD. Only way to fly.


is this a kit from somewhere or something you've created?

 

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:53 pm 
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Something I created. :D
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:11 pm 
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You will also need to upgrade to a EF/EL serpentine belt setup. Will make it a lot easier to run the supercharger.
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:09 pm 
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Much appreciated with all the advice. I Gotta ask, with the Chips and such, what would be the easiest way to go?
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:20 pm 
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Much appreciated with all the advice. I Gotta ask, with the Chips and such, what would be the easiest way to go?


I'll go with what will probably turn to a s**t fight.

My recommendation would be to go with the Moates F3 (J3) Chip.

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You will also need a chip to tune the ECU.

Look at the Moates site and see the gear there. http://www.moates.net/ford-19862004-c-63.html

You will need their F3 Chip (J3)
http://www.moates.net/f3-ford-memory-ad ... l?cPath=63
and also the Jaybird Programmer
http://www.moates.net/jaybird-j3-module ... l?cPath=63

If you want to read your stock ECU and dump the Binaries etc then you will need the Burn2 Programmer
http://www.moates.net/burn2-chip-progra ... l?cPath=63
and also the FA Adaptor
http://www.moates.net/fa-ford-module-pr ... l?cPath=63

You will only need either the Jaybird or the Burn2, you won't need both.

You can then use Tunerpro to do your tuning.

I am using the Quarterhorse but I won't go recommending that yet for the 6cyl as I still have further work to do to ensure that every thing works on the Live tuning side. Car is currently running on the Quarterhorse but with a cost difference of $135/160 for the F3 set up and $250 for the Quarterhorse, if the live tuning doesn't work then you have blown $100. I also purchased Binary Editor when I got my Quarterhorse so that added to the cost

If you don't want to go through Moates US, then contact BPR in Melbourne, nice guy but can be a little odd. He will help you out.
http://www.bulletperformanceracing.com. ... dware.html
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:55 pm 
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So an F3 chip and jaybird would be the best/easiest option?
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:58 pm 
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Povvo_XT wrote:
So an F3 chip and jaybird would be the best/easiest option?


In my opinion, yes. (awaits s**t fight)

I am still going ahead with using the quarterhorse. I may pay to get the patch done.
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:12 pm 
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From what i can see, that combo looks the easiest to setup. Yeah, the quarterhorse would be good, but like ya said, not much point if ya don't have the patch.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:14 pm 
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From what i can see, that combo looks the easiest to setup. Yeah, the quarterhorse would be good, but like ya said, not much point if ya don't have the patch.


At least I don't have to pull it out to make changes :D . I can do it straight from the laptop to the ECU. Even while the car is running. Will make it easier to tune on the Dyno.
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:50 pm 
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Yeah, i guess being able to tune in place via laptop could be a good option. Question is what it would cost to get a patch made to utilise the whole system
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:37 am 
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I will make a call next week and see what I can organise.
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 Post subject: Re: Turbo Vs Supercharger
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:07 pm 
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Keep me up to date on that.depending on the costing, mihgt be worth sharing the cost, çause in car tuning would be nice!
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:01 pm 
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Pics of XFPauls set up,

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