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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:37 pm 
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Just wanting to know, how much power do the 302 and 351 clevos have, standard?

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:47 pm 
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Depends what year and if 2V or 4V. Looking for my book now to give you some more helpful info. :)

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:49 pm 
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302 clevo 2v 2barrel, i have 351 crank n rods for it, so...351 2v with a 4 barrel

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:03 am 
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302 clevo 2v 2barrel, i have 351 crank n rods for it, so...351 2v with a 4 barrel


XD & XE 351's had 149kW's and 415 Nm.

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:23 am 
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the engine is actually out of an xa

 

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Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:29 pm 
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the engine is actually out of an xa


351W in XW was 290hp. 351C 2V in XY, XA was 250hp, and 351 4V in XY, XA was 300hp. the 4V had 11.0:1 comp ratio.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:50 pm 
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the engine is actually out of an xa


351W in XW was 290hp. 351C 2V in XY, XA was 250hp, and 351 4V in XY, XA was 300hp. the 4V had 11.0:1 comp ratio.


That 351W was also fitted with a 4 barrel carby, pretty sure only available in the GT and Fairlane of that era, early 351W had slightly bigger valves and ports than most early and onwards 302W plus later 351W.

Unlike the Cleveland in Australia in most cases (except GT) it was fitted with a 2 barrel carby until XC was released with a Thermoquad spread bore four barrel carby, but it had to comply with emissions standard ADR27A which killed output pretty hard, 4.9L 151kw(202HP) and 5.8L 162kw(217hp)

I think XA/XB stock 351 was 260hp factory released specs, I also think cam specs were the same for 2V headed 2 and 4 barrel (GT 300HP) carby engines for XB, I don't think(?) XA GT was available with anything else other than 4V headed engine.

 

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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:30 pm 
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the engine is actually out of an xa


351W in XW was 290hp. 351C 2V in XY, XA was 250hp, and 351 4V in XY, XA was 300hp. the 4V had 11.0:1 comp ratio.


That 351W was also fitted with a 4 barrel carby, pretty sure only available in the GT and Fairlane of that era, early 351W had slightly bigger valves and ports than most early and onwards 302W plus later 351W.

Unlike the Cleveland in Australia in most cases (except GT) it was fitted with a 2 barrel carby until XC was released with a Thermoquad spread bore four barrel carby, but it had to comply with emissions standard ADR27A which killed output pretty hard, 4.9L 151kw(202HP) and 5.8L 162kw(217hp)

I think XA/XB stock 351 was 260hp factory released specs, I also think cam specs were the same for 2V headed 2 and 4 barrel (GT 300HP) carby engines for XB, I don't think(?) XA GT was available with anything else other than 4V headed engine.


I got those specs out of several w/shop manuals. So I can only repeat what is printed in what I have, but gives basic idea of output.

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:00 am 
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cjh wrote:
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the engine is actually out of an xa


351W in XW was 290hp. 351C 2V in XY, XA was 250hp, and 351 4V in XY, XA was 300hp. the 4V had 11.0:1 comp ratio.


That 351W was also fitted with a 4 barrel carby, pretty sure only available in the GT and Fairlane of that era, early 351W had slightly bigger valves and ports than most early and onwards 302W plus later 351W.

Unlike the Cleveland in Australia in most cases (except GT) it was fitted with a 2 barrel carby until XC was released with a Thermoquad spread bore four barrel carby, but it had to comply with emissions standard ADR27A which killed output pretty hard, 4.9L 151kw(202HP) and 5.8L 162kw(217hp)

I think XA/XB stock 351 was 260hp factory released specs, I also think cam specs were the same for 2V headed 2 and 4 barrel (GT 300HP) carby engines for XB, I don't think(?) XA GT was available with anything else other than 4V headed engine.


I got those specs out of several w/shop manuals. So I can only repeat what is printed in what I have, but gives basic idea of output.


No probs, wasn't trying to show you up, I remember the output from my XB owners manual :lol:, but it came out factory with a 302, I also read up and compared a lot of factory cam specs, I remember the cam specs for 4V was different to 2V headed for XB, XB's only got the imported 4V's in the early models.
I wouldn't be surprised if factory output was way off the mark, considering what the cam specs were for a 4V and 2V, plus the major port and valve size differences, factory specs say 300hp for both 2V and 4V headed XB GT's.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:17 am 
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thanks for that guys, im now thinkin of a crate engine, i think it may be cheaper, not 100% sure. i have found an engine from rocket industries, its a 514 cubic inch-625hp.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:03 pm 
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thanks for that guys, im now thinkin of a crate engine, i think it may be cheaper, not 100% sure. i have found an engine from rocket industries, its a 514 cubic inch-625hp.



one of those will set yo back in the area of $20 000 and then you need a top quality feul system to go with it.

 

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:07 pm 
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yeah, i rang eagle auto parts today and they gave me a price of $16000. they were aparently using seconhamd blocks and now the supplier from the States is manufacturing brand new blocks for them. i asked about the smaller ford engines, he said they started @ $7000 so i think i will build my own engine wheather it be mild engine or not

 

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yeah, i rang eagle auto parts today and they gave me a price of $16000. they were aparently using seconhamd blocks and now the supplier from the States is manufacturing brand new blocks for them. i asked about the smaller ford engines, he said they started @ $7000 so i think i will build my own engine wheather it be mild engine or not


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