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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:45 pm 
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g'day, im abput to start building my car im putting a rebuilt stocker 302 clevo into an XA fairmont i picked up,

anyone know about this or done thie before is the gearbox going to hook up and is it strong enuff to handle the 30o2
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also i no i need a new diff so yer yer

has anyone done anything like this beforen (8 into XA-b-c model falcon) is there anyhthing i need to knoiw before going ahead?????
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:36 pm 
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if your going from a 6cyl -> v8. You'll also need the V8 gearbox. Otherwise it should bolt up. The only thing I'm not 100% sure of is the engine mounts on the chassis.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:06 pm 
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yer i know that hey im curerntly on the look out for engine mounts for a cl;evo into XA

another thing . . . one muffler shop told me to bolt my extractors on after the engine has been put into the bay apparently u only need to remove the starter motor and manouvre it in . . . another muffler shop told me its a hell of a lot easier with clevos to bolt ectractors on then lower the engine into the bay . . . from experianxcedo u know anything about this???
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:08 pm 
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Got plenty of experience there. It depends on the extractor design. Some will go in bolted to the engine. Others have no hope in hell.

Best bet is sit the extractors in the bay and lower the engine in. Once your 50/70% in you can bolt them to the engine and drop the engine 100% down.

I bolt mine on when the engines roughly 3" off the mounts.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:08 pm 
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get new v8 engine rubber mounts from ford/bursons.
get the lwr metal engine mounts (bolted to the chassis)
from the wreckers (out of a v8) , v8-l6 different.
you will need a v8 auto behind youre engine as the bw35
auto wont handle any pwr. let alone fit.
the 6 and v8 radiators are different so you will need
the v8 radiator mounts from the wreckers. plus some trimming of the
rad support pannel. (tin snips).
extractors are easier to fit to the engine while it is out
and then lwr asssembly in.
they can be fitted later but its a pain in the a***!!!!
mostly every thing else is pretty straight fwd, although you will have to lengthen wires for temp sensor/coil wiring from memory
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:13 pm 
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the rubber mounts are on the engine already hey.

wot type of gearbox? is there a name for it? like c4, c10? im not too sure wot type?

ok i dont understand about the radiator. so ill need a whole radiator setup or just the new mounts

really appreciate all this info guys, thanks
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:20 pm 
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new radiator [or from wrecker] and mounts.
c9or c10 auto. same reco or from wrecker.
i think the t-bar shifters are differnt to.
i cann't remember but i think one goes down the
left side and the other down the right or somthing???
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:23 pm 
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As your only using a stock 302 a good C4 auto will cope no probs. C4's were also fitted to 4.1's in xd's and xf's so they are easy to find.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:27 pm 
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oh ok, rito then, s**t all this info is great, u couldnt buy a book or anything to tell me this much info about a certain engine into a certain moidel car

so rito im now on the look out for a c10 and a radiator

looking at a gear box is there anyway i can tell its a c10, c9, c4 or wotever it may be, is it printed on the side or something, cos i got a mate that has a couple gearboxes in his backyrad that he would prob want to get rid of
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:31 pm 
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the dipstick filler tube will go into the sump/pan.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:34 pm 
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srry, i dont understand

brenx u seem to know a lil bit about this topic and the other topic i started have u done a similar build?
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:51 pm 
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smithy_141 wrote:
srry, i dont understand

brenx u seem to know a lil bit about this topic and the other topic i started have u done a similar build?


I've worked on many V8 X series falcons from the 60's through to the early 80's. I did a stint as a mechanic at a wreckers. All I did all day was engine conversions, diff and gearbox changes.

I'll find a pic of a c4/10 for you. I'm sure I have one here.

[edit]all my mates own X series cars too.

* One used to have an XC that we did engine changes on every 4 months as he was too tight to maintain the engine.

* other had two XB's. One wagon and a coupe. Wagons now written off.

* another owns an XA GT that I do work on every now and again

* then there's myself with the XB. This is my 2nd XB. I built my car so I know every inch of it. I do my own paint/panel and majority of the mechanicals. I do all the maintenance too.

 

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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:59 pm 
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The dipstick screws in just underneath the billet servo cover you see.

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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:13 am 
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Anyone needing conversion parts for xa xb 6cyl to v8, i can help out and i'm located in melb western suburbs.
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:46 am 
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i forgot. you'll need to change your throttle linkage
as v8 and six are differnt.
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