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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:01 pm 
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Ummm, that doesn't sound too promising, never heard of needing a new sump for 347 stroker! :cry:

 

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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:03 pm 
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So went t see it start up, knocking from sump. need a bigger one. has anyone had this problem?? And what type/size sump do i need? F Me this is sending me bonkers lol :cry:


You'll need to google High Energy or ASR Oil Pans. High Energy have been a bit hit and miss, have hear lots of good about ASR...

 

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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:42 pm 
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L.D-50 wrote:
So went t see it start up, knocking from sump. need a bigger one. has anyone had this problem?? And what type/size sump do i need? F Me this is sending me bonkers lol :cry:


I think this just shows how dodgy those C*** s are!
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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:37 pm 
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So went t see it start up, knocking from sump. need a bigger one. has anyone had this problem?? And what type/size sump do i need? F Me this is sending me bonkers lol :cry:


More likey to be rods hitting the main girdle/windage tray only clearanced for a 3" stroke or they didn't grind enough clearance at the bottoms of the bores for the rods or even around the oil pump mounting boss. There should be plenty of room in the stock sump even for H-beams.

I'd be inclined to open the sump up myself to check for damage on whatever was fouling. You don't want a compromised rod and/or bent girdle in your motor.

 

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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:31 pm 
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dude yes same problem i put a 351 windsor for a xy xw high energy sump on mine just had it will fit straight in on yours one note tho still use the 5.0l bolt brackets and bolts
the rear section of the 351 windsor sump is 1/2 deeper and will clear crank

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:34 pm 
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these are the things you are suppose to check before you bolt in always wind engine over by hand to check clearances :x :x NEVER I MEAN NEVER ASSUME THINGS ARE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also check when sump off the number 1 rod bolt is not hitting the mounting boss on the block

 

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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:52 pm 
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dude yes same problem i put a 351 windsor for a xy xw high energy sump on mine just had it will fit straight in on yours one note tho still use the 5.0l bolt brackets and bolts
the rear section of the 351 windsor sump is 1/2 deeper and will clear crank



Thank you heaps mate, sitting here filling out fair trading forms, wanting to unleash some 80's sytle street justice lol, could i use a standard xy 351 sump pan? or does it need to be a high energy??
if not a high energy i could maybe get it back tomorrow before lunch if i have to order one probably wont see it back till tues wed next week..... Was taken in 15th sept 2010. Im either 10 times as mentally strong or im a ticking time bomb ready to go off. seriously worst experience of my life, i know builds never go a 100% to plan but this is ridiculous. should be a what 3- 4 week build?
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:15 pm 
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naa if ya gunna do it get the HE one or ASR only every thing else is china rubbish and you will get extra 2 liters of oil in it will help with cooling as it will run hotter than stock and dont use coolant for the first 500kms to let head gasket seat... just water and run penrite pro 15 oil to run in

 

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dude yes same problem i put a 351 windsor for a xy xw high energy sump on mine just had it will fit straight in on yours one note tho still use the 5.0l bolt brackets and bolts
the rear section of the 351 windsor sump is 1/2 deeper and will clear crank


How does a 351W sump fit a 302/5.0?

 

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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:07 am 
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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:23 am 
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Have ya got any suggestions?? The vehicle is at their business on a hoist i cant check what i want when i want, so i can only tell them from this end so what would you have me tell them to check or do?

Or is it a call the cops and have it removed scenerio?
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 10:41 am 
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XTT909 wrote:
dude yes same problem i put a 351 windsor for a xy xw high energy sump on mine just had it will fit straight in on yours one note tho still use the 5.0l bolt brackets and bolts
the rear section of the 351 windsor sump is 1/2 deeper and will clear crank


A 351w sump will not fit a 302!
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:16 pm 
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Yep, we all agree that a 351W sump doesn't fit a 302W/5.0.

But a stock 5.0 sump is OK on a 347, so what's the knocking/tapping? Something's not clearanced correctly and is currently "machining itself to fit"

I'd be inclined to simply reject the 347 engine on the grounds that it hasn't been assembled with expert care and attention, and you no longer have any faith in their abilities so you just want to be paid out. Have them remove the engine and then collect your car. Then drag them through court. Don't forget to add on plenty of "Consequential Liability" items - milage, lost wages, your time, alternative transport costs, inconvenience, stress etc. This can easily double the claim value. Once they see the papers they may even settle directly for a slightly lesser amount.

If you continue to work with them, you will regret it. They have been happy to crap on you twice, what's another one or two dumps???

 

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 Post subject: Re: au 347 stroker, what tune for first start and bed in?
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:47 pm 
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I completely agree with the above post.

One thing, though. I'm pretty sure a lot of AU drivers have clearance issues with the sump. I've read a number of threads where this has been the case. Apparently some massaging had to be done on the sumps to fit the T3s.

 

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um sry u guys im wrong it says 289 to 302 HE2002 289-302 Windsor XM-XF Ford Super Pan thats what ive got just had to clearance crossmember and it is 1/2 inch deeper at the rear half for clearance

 

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