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 Post subject: Availability of hoses..
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:23 pm 
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Hi All, I am about to start a 5L conversion. I am having an issue with a lot of V8 specific parts for the E-series (as opposed to those that are shared with the 6 cyl)

I have tried the better of the auto parts places in my area (which are Burson's and Auto One), and they are telling me that for a lot of the parts on my list, they are genuine only.

As a result, I have ordered a lot of the parts form Fraud. Now, the Ford dealer has told me that one of the hester hoses that runs between the engine and the heater tap are is discontunued (the rest they have in sotck).

While I can just get a piece of normal heater hose and bend it to suit, I would rather not. Is there anywhere in Sydney that is likely to have these hoses?

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:26 pm 
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Hi All, I am about to start a 5L conversion. I am having an issue with a lot of V8 specific parts for the E-series (as opposed to those that are shared with the 6 cyl)

I have tried the better of the auto parts places in my area (which are Burson's and Auto One), and they are telling me that for a lot of the parts on my list, they are genuine only.

As a result, I have ordered a lot of the parts form Fraud. Now, the Ford dealer has told me that one of the hester hoses that runs between the engine and the heater tap are is discontunued (the rest they have in sotck).

While I can just get a piece of normal heater hose and bend it to suit, I would rather not. Is there anywhere in Sydney that is likely to have these hoses?

Cheers
Chris


I find it funny that they don't do hoses aftermarket afaik you can purchase the taps aftermarket,

 

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 Post subject: Re: Availability of hoses..
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:27 pm 
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Which heater hose is it? if you didnt mind having a second hand one, i can give you mine off my spare motor.

Or give peps at Hoxten park road a call because thats were i ordered mine from.
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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:37 pm 
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There is a company in Aussie that does all the coolant hoses aftermarket. Repco NZ and Supercheap NZ both source from them, so Repco and Supercheap Australia probably do as well. I can't remember the name, but someone else will. I'll call my local supplier tomorrow and post if nobody else has by then. Price here is about half what Ford charge.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Availability of hoses..
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:57 pm 
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The two heater hoses from what I can tell are close enough to be the same/interchangable, which is why now Ford (and everywhere else) only list one.

Be careful of the thermostat to waterpump hose (the small dog leg one) I bought an aftermarket one (Mackay brand) and within a few days it had split down a seam in the hose. Replaced it with a genuine one.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:13 pm 
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Looking through the Mackay catalog, the only hose that isnt available from them is the top radiator hose.

http://mackayrubber.com.au/pdf/HoseWeb.pdf

As for heater hoses, you need two CH1799, one CH1800 and one CH1801

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:17 pm 
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Mackay was the Australian brand name I was searching for. Hopefully your experience was a once-off. I used their thermostat bypass hose and heater hose (waterpump to hardline) on a clients rather expensive rebuild a few months ago.

 

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Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Gates does them all except the top block to rad hose(genuine Fraud only !!).

Just bought the 2 hoses for the water pump to heater bypass....$78 for 6 inches of hose...what a joke - and made in mexico!!

Have fun and try Repco - bottom hose(with 2 x clamps) cost me $23...good value when Ford wanted $59...Grrr
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:37 pm 
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Mackay supplies (or used to) most of Ford's OEM hoses anyway so they should be the same.

I need to replace the two small bypass hoses on the front of the motor soon too. Rockauto.com in the USA has the small dogleg hose for the 5.0 V8 Ford Explorer for $5 or so... does anyone know if these are the same as ours? IIRC the water pumps are different so maybe not...
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:46 pm 
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Yeah is the same.

Only difference between the AU/Explorer water pump and E-series/94-95 Mustang one is the depth of the snout on the pump, doesnt effect the hoses.

 

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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:28 am 
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Sturmovik wrote:
Yeah is the same.

Only difference between the AU/Explorer water pump and E-series/94-95 Mustang one is the depth of the snout on the pump, doesnt effect the hoses.


The thermostat bypass hose is the same but there are some other differences besides overall depth.

- The waterpump hose barb for the waterpump to hardline is 5/8" on AU and 3/4" on E-series and SN-95 5.0 Mustangs. So you need to get the correct hose to suit your model when replacing this one

- The bolt circle for attaching the pulley is larger for the AU than the E-series and this in turn is larger than the SN-95 5.0 Mustangs.

- The centring hole in the pulley is larger for the AU than the E-series and this in turn is larger than the SN-95 5.0 Mustangs.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Availability of hoses..
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:57 am 
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I RECENTLY ASKED PAPA SMURF FOR THE TOP RADIATOR HOSE,the last one i bought was around 72 and now is around 120 ish,i had a few leaking ones hanging around so i made a aluminium joiner to use the good bits,as they leak on the join seams.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Availability of hoses..
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:08 pm 
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One of the bypass hoses is diff on AU to E Series has a larger end on one. Cause I fitted an Au pump to my EF. Pump Pulley is diff on AU as well. Regards TPVM.


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 Post subject: Re: Availability of hoses..
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:42 pm 
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Thanks guys. Turns out the small bypass hose CH998 and pump to hardline hose CH2478 (AU only) are listed in Supercheap's catalouge at $18 and $6 respectively - cheaper than ordering from rockauto.
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