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 Post subject: Eb v8 power steering hose
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:29 pm 
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So today I fit the rebuilt power steering pump to my white Eb xr8. It's still a tad noisy, but it doesn't leak anymore. However I found I have a small leak at the fitting where the high pressure hose fits into the side of the pump (Not the big fitting with the O ring for the reservoir, the small one that screws in.....Bugger!

Is there mean to be an O ring on the end of the fitting that screws into the side of the pump or is it just old & shagged?

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:02 pm 
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Pretty sure there's an O ring ???

 

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 Post subject: Re: Eb v8 power steering hose
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:40 am 
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It's a white (teflon?) seal that fits in a receiver groove just outboard of the threaded portion of the metal fitting. About 1/2" in diameter. Ford p/n FO-388898 S. It is a single-use item that destroys itself whenever the HP line is unscrewed. The new seal needs to be stretched to fit over the threads. A workshop manual should give instructions on how to do this without damaging the seal.

Have you removed the air from the system by turning the steering wheel lock-lock a dozen or more times? The air often causes noise until it's all gone.

 

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 Post subject: Re: Eb v8 power steering hose
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:43 am 
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That's exactly the info I need, thanks xafalcon!

I will order the seal on monday, can't be expensive at trade price. Might get a couple if they are cheap enough. I don't have a hard copy of the EA-ED workshop manual, can't find my electronic one either lol.

I have turned the wheel a lot to bleed the system, and the noise is slowly going away, however the bearing/bush in the pump has a fair bit of wear in it, so I don't expect it to be quiet.

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 Post subject: Re: Eb v8 power steering hose
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:46 pm 
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Hey what tool did you use to get the pulley off/on?
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Ronan wrote:
Hey what tool did you use to get the pulley off/on?


I've got this set
http://www.getprice.com.au/TOLEDO-Power-Steering-Pump-Pulley-Kit-245380-Gpnc_500--43569189.htm#

You can pick it up thru places like Repco & Bursons. Removes & installs pulleys on power steering pumps, very wide variety of pumps. On a v8 you will also need some E torx sockets, a set I bought from Total Tools. I think it was e12 to undo the 3 bolts.

xafalcon -> I've got the teflon o rings on order, and they said there is another seal there as well, so I ordered one of them for good measure. I should see them tomorrow.

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Probably a good idea to have a spare Teflon seal - particularly if you have to stretch it - if they're like the steering rack pinion housing ones, they can be very easily damaged.
Those ones use a tapered pipe you stretch them on. Also best if you used just fingers and some PS fluid to manipulate them - any metal tools will quickly damage also.

 

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:24 pm 
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Probably a good idea to have a spare Teflon seal - particularly if you have to stretch it - if they're like the steering rack pinion housing ones, they can be very easily damaged.
Those ones use a tapered pipe you stretch them on. Also best if you used just fingers and some PS fluid to manipulate them - any metal tools will quickly damage also.


That's why I ordered 2, Should be able to get the job done with that many lol. Thanks for the tip Snap, your helpful as always sir!

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:35 pm 
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Yeah Mate, best of luck with it - let us know how you get on.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:26 pm 
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[quote="ToranaGuyxafalcon -> I've got the teflon o rings on order, and they said there is another seal there as well, so I ordered one of them for good measure. I should see them tomorrow.

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The only other seals should be the black nitrile O-ring between the pumps metal fitting & resevoir, and the o-ring inside the HP line fitting. All I ever change is the teflon(?) seal except when there is obvious leakage around the other seals.

To fit the teflon(?) seal. Heat in boiling water (no hotter), stretch over a suitable cone or use needle-nose pliers to stretch, quickly fit to HP fitting, allow to cool. Easy

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:50 pm 
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Parts numbered 3888898s (in the paper bag) & F33C3F656BA arrived the other day at work....

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These are obviously changeable, they have a black o ring inside it, and what looks like a circlip of some sort so it doesn't come off easily once it's on the metal hose.

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:53 pm 
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The metal part in the clear bag is already wearing the teflon(?) seal. The metal part is only replaced when leakage happens between the HP pipe & HP fitting on the end of the HP pipe (not the one screwed into the pump resevoir) ie at the flexible joint. I actually pull the 2 parts of this apart & just replace the O-ring, but Ford considers the part unservicable and supplies a whole new fitting like you got.

The teflon(?) seal is only $4. Replace that first as this causes 9/10 leaks in this area. If your leak stops then return the metal fitting. If it doesn't stop the leak, cut the old fitting off and replace with the new one.

 

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:16 pm 
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xafalcon wrote:
The metal part in the clear bag is already wearing the teflon(?) seal. The metal part is only replaced when leakage happens between the HP pipe & HP fitting on the end of the HP pipe (not the one screwed into the pump resevoir) ie at the flexible joint. I actually pull the 2 parts of this apart & just replace the O-ring, but Ford considers the part unservicable and supplies a whole new fitting like you got.

The teflon(?) seal is only $4. Replace that first as this causes 9/10 leaks in this area. If your leak stops then return the metal fitting. If it doesn't stop the leak, cut the old fitting off and replace with the new one.


Yep it's wearing the seal, I have a spare seal in the bag for the other Xr8. I thought while I was getting parts, why not grab it too. Seal was $4.50, connector was $11, got a clutch leaver insulator as well while I was there. Prices are +gst lol.

I'm not 100% sure the seal inside the connector is ok that is on the car, all I know is it's missing it's teflon seal. I'll replace the connector just for good measure, for this price why the hell bother with the possibility of the existing one leaking, destroying a new teflon o ring & then loosing power steer fluid.

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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:22 pm 
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mate did you end up cutting/grinding off the old nut that was on the high pressure power steering piping?
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:25 pm 
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Shen Long wrote:
mate did you end up cutting/grinding off the old nut that was on the high pressure power steering piping?


Yep. Fit the new one. No leaks. It's great.

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