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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:16 am 
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What ecu are you using???
I think the MSD uses magnetic pick up and can play havoc with ecu signals?? Whats wrong with hall effect system as used in std dissy????
347's have LONG rods ! These days anyway.. they are generally 5.4" while std rods are much shorter.The pin will be in oil control ring but that isn't an issue these days as they generally have tool steel inserts to support ring...There has been alot of engineering put into these kits and oil issues is NOT an issue !! Unless poor quility parts are used or bad clearance on assembly...Some machining is required on lower cylinder bore for clearance of rod bolts....
You have big cam and short inlet runners... It will be interesting where power comes on??? I assume its going to have quite high compression?? 10.5 or so ?? You'll make 350 easy...

 

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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:44 pm 
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balizticbobo wrote:
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he just a question coz im not really upto spead on things but does the 347 stroker combo start life as a 302 or a 289and does buy making the stroke diff make it a far better packge than the standrd stroke 351 or just mildly better....????.......as a have a 302 windsor that i will be tackleing next yr and starting to think about best combo for a tuff little dailly driver ...


The problem with 347s is that they use very short rods and short skirt pistons with a short deck height. Also still shorter stroke than 351. But Lighter!

302 same bore size as 289, essentially same block. 289,302,351,400 all same bore size...

The 289 and 302 isn't the same block. You can't stroke a 289 to 347 the barrels don't extend down into the crank case like they do in a 302.

 

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:18 am 
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balizticbobo wrote:
409Stroker wrote:
he just a question coz im not really upto spead on things but does the 347 stroker combo start life as a 302 or a 289and does buy making the stroke diff make it a far better packge than the standrd stroke 351 or just mildly better....????.......as a have a 302 windsor that i will be tackleing next yr and starting to think about best combo for a tuff little dailly driver ...


The problem with 347s is that they use very short rods and short skirt pistons with a short deck height. Also still shorter stroke than 351. But Lighter!

302 same bore size as 289, essentially same block. 289,302,351,400 all same bore size...

The 289 and 302 isn't the same block. You can't stroke a 289 to 347 the barrels don't extend down into the crank case like they do in a 302.

I asked this question over on www.corral.net and heaps of guys said they have 289 blocks stroked to 347.. In this case the pin height could be even higher ??? May have used custom pistons which is way cheaper there....

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:57 am 
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OK - HUGE Update!!!!

I've been looking at what block to use for the stroker motor
I was going to use older mexican block but not knowing legality issues about this with Qld Transport i decided against it as there law states you can not transplant a motor that is older than that of the car and since engine numbers will say it's older than the car..........

So after talking with engine builder i have decided to bite the bullet and fork out the kudos for a brand new aftermarket block

This is where the fun starts as everything that was semi planned for this combo is now out the window as i have decided to run all forged internals to get maximum strength and HP potential as this block can withstand any amounts of HP i decide to throw at it

The block we are using has a bore of 4.119...YES YOU READ RIGHT...which needs to be slightly bored and honed to use a set of 4.125 forged slugs
This combined with stroker kit will take motor out to 371 cu inches

The heads WERE all finished but now are pulled apart again to do some serious port work etc to get maximum flow out of them

This new combo is getting built in 2 phases - N/A and F/I

This phase is the N/A phase obviously then next phase consists of set of 200cc runner AFR heads with a CAPA kit installed

Hopefully new block will be here in couple weeks if in stock here at Aus supplier so will have pics posted up then

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:11 am 
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371 cu = 6.07 litres

 

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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:43 pm 
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So which aftermarket block did you buy?
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 11:43 am 
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Anyone know if the US 94-95 model 5.0 the same as ours?
Trying to define which distributor to buy
MSD lists 2 dizzys for the EFI 5.0, 86-93 and 94-95


'94-'95 5.0's have a remote TFI so you need the '86-'93 type if you want to just plug in. Now depending on which aftermarket block you have you may need a 351 TFI-IV distributor.

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:20 pm 
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Its good to see someone having a go at something i didnt have the balls to do.


Good luck and im looking forward to some pics. :lol:

 

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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:34 pm 
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Block is a DART SPORTSMAN
4 bolt main, 4.125 bore, 8.2 deck height

Will hopefully be here end next week

Having a go is the easiest bit it's trying not to think of the $$$ getting invested
Think of the car i could go out and buy for same dollars but end of the day this will be unique and different

 

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TickXR wrote:
Block is a DART SPORTSMAN
4 bolt main, 4.125 bore, 8.2 deck height

Will hopefully be here end next week

Having a go is the easiest bit it's trying not to think of the $$$ getting invested
Think of the car i could go out and buy for same dollars but end of the day this will be unique and different


outta interest mate, what sort of ball park figure we talking about? i was hoping to do one of these when funds permit

 

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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:01 pm 
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kezz wrote:
TickXR wrote:
Block is a DART SPORTSMAN
4 bolt main, 4.125 bore, 8.2 deck height

Will hopefully be here end next week

Having a go is the easiest bit it's trying not to think of the $$$ getting invested
Think of the car i could go out and buy for same dollars but end of the day this will be unique and different


outta interest mate, what sort of ball park figure we talking about? i was hoping to do one of these when funds permit

Are you asking about the whole build, or jsut the block?

I am keen to know what a decent block is worth. What sort of power will the sportsman support?

 

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whole build up. a price breakdown would be wonderful too :D

 

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Dart blocks can be had for around 3500-5000, depending on where you get them from.
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:35 am 
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dart block is nice!
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:50 pm 
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yes dart blocks are a nice piece of gear
they can handle way over 1000hp so this block will handle anything that i throw at it as i'm not expecting to go anywhere near these limits

as for pricing, i get a lil bit of a discount on my stuff so not going to give run down on exact prices but what i will say is i've spent over 7k already and am expecting around the 15k mark all finished and running 8-)

 

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