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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:01 pm 
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My EF Ghia has this intermittent thing on start up where by sometimes it clunks and rattles , and others start fine. Ive been told its the starter motor and depending on where it stops when u turn off the car, it will make a racket when starting if it stops on the worn spot.

Does this diagnosis seem right>>? ALSO I have heard starters can be "re-coed" but is it better just to purchase a new one? And where from In melbourne....dont tell me bayford *lol*

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:46 pm 
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My EF Ghia has this intermittent thing on start up where by sometimes it clunks and rattles , and others start fine. Ive been told its the starter motor and depending on where it stops when u turn off the car, it will make a racket when starting if it stops on the worn spot.

Does this diagnosis seem right>>? ALSO I have heard starters can be "re-coed" but is it better just to purchase a new one? And where from In melbourne....dont tell me bayford *lol*


That sounds like your flexplate. It will need to be replaced, which means removing either the engine or trans. Replace the starter while your at it, and it will last for ages. A decent workshop should be able to do this for a reasonable price, it should only take 3 hours or so.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:54 pm 
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s**t and I was hoping it was only gonna be the starter!!! How u know this?? U had the same problem with a windsor??

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:35 pm 
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Its the gear on outside of flexplate...
Not part of the actual engine..
Yes you'll have to take auto out ..
I would double check starter motor first ..

 

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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:42 pm 
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Its the gear on outside of flexplate...
Not part of the actual engine..
Yes you'll have to take auto out ..
I would double check starter motor first ..


agreed, its easier to check the starter that it is to remove the gear box

first pull the starter out and have a look at the gear on the end of it, if some of the teeth are worn/broken then replace it.

whilst the starter is out you should be able to look through the hole where the starter bolt's up and check the teeth on the ring gear (a flexible mirror might come in handy for this) get a socket and ratchet on the end of the crank and slowly turn the motor by hand and inspect the ring gear for damage/wear

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:41 am 
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EBXR8380 wrote:
Its the gear on outside of flexplate...
Not part of the actual engine..
Yes you'll have to take auto out ..
I would double check starter motor first ..


agreed, its easier to check the starter that it is to remove the gear box

first pull the starter out and have a look at the gear on the end of it if some of the teeth are worn/broken then replace it

whilst the starter is out you should be able to look through the hole where the starter bolt up and check the teeh on the ring gear (a flexible mirror might come in handy for this) get a socket and ratchet on the end of the crank and slowly turn the motor by hand and inspect the ring gear for damage/wear


Fantastic mate...great advice I will check when i get home from work tonight. cheers! :wink:

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:33 am 
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ust thought id let you guys know too.....anyone for a starter motor from bayford?????? $1,350!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! W.T.F?????????????????



I reckon i would looked like one of the victims of that little girl who comes outta the tv, in whats it called...THE RING..when the sales guy told me that!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:40 pm 
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ust thought id let you guys know too.....anyone for a starter motor from bayford?????? $1,350!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! W.T.F?????????????????



I reckon i would looked like one of the victims of that little girl who comes outta the tv, in whats it called...THE RING..when the sales guy told me that!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:


an after market newy will definatly be cheaper but ring an auto elect first. if its still serviceable then they should be able to rebuild it for even less than the cost of a newy

 

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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:43 pm 
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nannas_ed wrote:
EBXR8380 wrote:
Its the gear on outside of flexplate...
Not part of the actual engine..
Yes you'll have to take auto out ..
I would double check starter motor first ..


agreed, its easier to check the starter that it is to remove the gear box

first pull the starter out and have a look at the gear on the end of it if some of the teeth are worn/broken then replace it

whilst the starter is out you should be able to look through the hole where the starter bolt up and check the teeh on the ring gear (a flexible mirror might come in handy for this) get a socket and ratchet on the end of the crank and slowly turn the motor by hand and inspect the ring gear for damage/wear


Fantastic mate...great advice I will check when i get home from work tonight. cheers! :wink:


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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:50 pm 
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Took it to local Auto elec near work, he says as I thought the starter motor is the issue. I am takin it back tomorrow (if it starts in the morn- its near the end of its life!) he is gonna put a reco in for $260- inc labour.
which i guess is not that bad, as i can get an aftermarket cheapy for $190 in Tulla, but thats just the part...He suggests the ring gear may be a little worn too *lol* so I guess I'll find out the full extent tomorrow!!

but better then handing over nearly 2 weeks pay for just the starter motor to BAYFORD....but oh yeah "you have to remember, its Motorcraft" what drugs are ford spare parts on??? :roll:

 

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Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:09 pm 
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had the "new" starter put in now she starts like a charm, the clutches in the old one were stuffed so was the sprocket. Ring gear was a little chipped in places, but i expected that. Sp this time the auto stays in!!!! touch wood for next time :lol:

 

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